The Soul's Fall... The Final Word

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> > So,

> > that hence one could say "original abode" but mean that jiva from this

> > world has never been there on the first place (his "ancestors" that came

> > to this world and "produced" the future generations of jivas were there,

> > though).

>

> Now that's ridiculous; there are no ancestral jIvas producing other jIvas.

> Let's not get carried away with the analogy.

 

My suggestion also - let's not get carried away with the anology.

 

 

> > And what "American-born Indian" has to do with this? You base your

> > theory on your premiss that the living entity is a material-world born.

>

> This is not a premise; this is from Srila Prabhupada: "The material

> activity of the living being is beginningless." If there is a prior

> spiritual world experience, then the material activity would not be

> beginningless.

 

(If there is no a prior spiritual world experience, then there

would be no question of our *forgetfulness*)

 

There hasn't been a moment that I might be doubting in you being

able to find out some quote like the above. The quote that containers

some "beginningless" word in ("nittya-badha"). Neither that you

have heard for any other explanation from anybody (including

Prabhupada) what could it mean, but only that what you got on your

mind.

 

 

You see, here you fall in your own trap. See, in that quote that

you supply here, it is NOT explicitly said that it is *the living

entity* is in the material world since ever, beginninglessly.

ONLY that **material activity** (of the living being, of course)

is beginningless. But what happens with the living entity, *when*

(in WHICH explicit point of eternal time) he comes and takes

part in that "beginningless activity", you got no info nor idea.

 

 

 

 

- mnd