Stop Sadhu-ninda

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> In response, I could also repeat scandalous information about different

> ISKCON gurus -- which is well-known and documented -- but I will not stoop

> to such low-minded tactics as a way of winning my points. Vaisnava

> etiquette forbids me.

 

I know, I know... I know you could.

 

My point was to be *cautious* in believing to such person like

Payonidhi, since that was *him* to broadcast on Internet this

"scandalous information" (as you call it here) about NM.

 

I was simply winning your point "Listen to Payonidhi, he is a

person worthy of our trust". Have you noticed what point of

yours I was addressing?

 

As far as "well-known and documented" scandalous information

about different ISCKON gurus, I stay assured that even the

followers of Gaudiya Math leaders are certainly in the possession

of these. Even Marayana Maharaja himself can be heard telling

on his classes about ISCKON leaders giving more respect to Bombay

film prostitutes than to sadhus. He knows at what they are, and

makes sure that everybody else will know it.

 

 

 

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> Your intention is simply to create doubt and criticize, not enlighten. You

> don't know about those incidents of ladies massaging Maharaja's lower legs

> and feet, but you assume the worst.

 

I don't even bother about. I assume just nothing.

 

I simply reminded you on *who* gave us that rapport not so long

ago -- Payonidhi das. The one that you are directing us now to

accept as a *trustable* second-hand messenger.

 

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> I say *atmanam manyate jagat*. You think of what you would do in that

> position. A thief also thinks everyone will steal like him.

 

As I said, I really careless for the situation, but am simply

placing here my doubts in Payonidhi's credibility, based on this

accounts of his.

 

But you may go thinking what I would migt think doing in that position.

Can't stop you.

 

 

> Remember, Maharaja is 80 years old and these girls are

> young enough to be his great grand-daughters. But we will imagine the

> most salacious possibilities, won't we? So who is actually contaminated?

 

I don't know what "we will imagine". You seam to get quite some idea

on "most salacious possibilities".

 

What I can imagine here is that your bright example Payonidhi das

is known as a someone of a somewhat passionate moves, so I illustrated

a bit of it, trying to preserve here some rights of doubt in regard whom

to accept as my vartma-pradarsaka model. On the other hand, personalities

like HH Satsvarup Maharaja, HH Tamal Krsna Goswami, and other seniors

of this movement are to step aside when one Payonidhi steps in with

his "brightness" in showing the way to all of us, including the

very initiated disciples of the mentioned gurus.

 

 

I think I already explained in my previous text what my intention

was, but you nevertheless went into "imagining what I could be

imagining" about the position of getting massaged by the young ladies,

and then "hanging" me for it in public. Well, have a fun.

 

 

 

- mnd