Sruti Kirti - Prabhupad - Remarriage

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But if

> anything tore it apart it was this renunciation thing. It was all false

> renunciation, I believe.

 

Thats the key issue. Material relationships let us down all the time. People

who we think are friends, soon reveal their colours when you need help. Real

friends are extremely rare. False renunciation also is usless.

 

The camaraderie of advanced devotees of course is what we need. Such

relationships can be eternal, if they are actualy based on spiritual mellow.

 

We can have all sorts of friendships of varying qualities, and often they

make us feel good. I guess the permanence of them depends on how much they

are spiritualy based.

 

> And isn't it this artificial renunciation that gets things so twisted up?

 

Definately. A person whose renunciation is artificial is not being honest

with himself or anyone else.

 

> Would there be a huge court case today, if the emphasis hadn't been so

> incredibly tilted toward a show of renunciation and misogyny in general.

> "Stay bramacari whatever you do and if you are married, God forbid, don't

> love your wife. Beat her, abuse her, ignore her, but God forbid you should

> love her. Love, a little human love! Who knows; she could end up your good

> friend, confidante, confessor, spiritual advisor. And who says our

> relations don't last more than one lifetime, but I take on too much.

 

You are dead right. For many years in ISKCON our leaders have used cooercion

and repression as tools to manage. I feel that is becasue many of them were

artificial renunciates, and because of that dishonesty, they were living a

crooked lie. Such a person is not capable of giving their true self, so

where is the question of real freindship.

 

> So please don't take this as a personal attack, Samba.

 

It didnt come across as a personal attack at all. Actualy I appreciate very

much your comments, you come across as a very sincere and concerned person.

 

YS