How to start varnasrama

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> But against *whom* you are exactly complaining now? Who exactly

> are "they" in this particular instance? The leaders? Or the devotees in

> Germany? Or some group that is neither leaders nor general body of

> devotees?

 

Germany, Australia, wherever. Wherever the idea exists that you can use

people as you wish, without giving them a chance to act according to their

natures, that is not the way Srila Prabhupada wanted people to be treated.

 

 

> It us funny that even if we don't have sufficient information,

 

HO HO

 

that

> doesn't prevent us to condemn "them", to blast the idea all together, and

> to assume that "the way I would like to do in my life now" is the way how

> "they" got to do it.

 

The way I would like to live my life, is the way Srila Prabhupada would like

us to live, a way that would please him, learning to live off the land, as

he wanted to instruct us in Gita Nagari. I beleive that Srila Prabhupada is

right when he speaks of simple living and high thinking. I think he is right

that we need a varnasrama social system. I am trying to live his idea, to

grow my own food, as that will make me independant, it will also allow me to

come to the mode of goodness, which I need badly to advance my

consciousness. So I am adjusting my life to try to make this possible, why?

Because I have faith that Srila Prabhupada is right.

 

I beleive that that is what he wanted for his society, not that EVERYONE has

to do EVERYTHING, but from what I can see its pretty clear he wanted ISKCON

ot have a number of 'ideal units' of society. And when I see that this

instruction is ignored, and worse, berated, I feel a sense of outrage, that

so called followers are not following the instructions of their

Gurumaharaja, instructions that could stop the social malaise, nor

supporting anyone else who makes the attempt, but instead continue to

mismanage people, and further the discord.

 

I beleive that by following Srila Prabhupadas instructions, I will become

truly free. Why else join such a movement as ISKCON, if not to follow the

instructions of the acarya? Not just the book distribution ones, but all of

them. The are ALL important.

 

 

> So, what's that terribly wrong and against Prabhupada? Please,

> explain. Both you and Janesvara seem to be reading far too much

> into some simple sentence of Harsi.

 

Actualy I did not pay any attention at all to where this was happening. nor

was I criticising anyone in Germany per se. For all I know they may have a

great idea, they may be doing the right thing in terms of varnasrama. As

long as the society does not accept Srila Prabhupads ideas for varnasrama

the society will continue in the same old paradigm all over the world,

Germany, wherever, with the same kind of success and failure we have seen

everwhere. Sure there may be some real success going on somewhere, despite

the lack of social system, but really without social system, how can we grow

in a wholesome way? It is not possible, Srila Prabhupada has said so, and

for me that is enough.

 

YS