Guest guest Posted December 15, 1999 Report Share Posted December 15, 1999 Hare Krishna, The beauty of the varnashrama social system is, that by carefully following it, everyone is guaranteed to have the best opportunity to go back to Godhead at the earliest possible moment. Your servant, Sri Rama das [srirama (AT) bbt (DOT) se], or [srirama (AT) jps (DOT) net] < PLEASE NOTE THIS NEW EMAIL ADDRESS Madhusudani.Radha.JPS (AT) bbt (DOT) se [Madhusudani.Radha.JPS (AT) bbt (DOT) se] Tuesday, December 14, 1999 12:47 PM COM: India (Continental Committee) Open (Forum); COM: Varnasrama development; COM: (International) Women's Ministry; Parijata2 (AT) aol (DOT) com; btb (AT) georgian (DOT) net spiritually equal, materially different [Text 2858338 from COM] At 20:26 +0100 12/14/1999, COM: Harsi (das) HKS (Timisoara - RO) wrote: > > What wonders me the most, is that there are also so many woman who are >satisfied with being called infiriour to man, when actually it should mean >that they are just different, materially speaking. You're absolutely right. Maybe our silence is simply due to the fact that several of us have already repeated exactly that concept so many times that we're wondering if anyone even wants to listen. Of course men and women are *different* and in that sense we're not "equal", materially speaking. Only women's bodies have ovaries and a uterus and only men's bodies make sperm. Only women's bodies produce milk to feed an infant and, on the average, male bodies have greater muscle mass than do female bodies. This has led to some pretty obvious and different social roles in virtually all cultures. But you're absolutely right that one role is not "better" or "worse". Both are needed and complement each other perfectly. Of course, spiritually speaking, we're all equals. That's why many vaisnavis can't understand why the GHQ and their supporters want to contradict Prabhupada's example and limit souls in female bodies from performing *devotional service* according to their propensities. The ministry never says that we should support research that will allow men's bodies to give birth or women's bodies to produce sperm. The ministry has never said that men and women are identical, materially speaking. All they have requested is that we return to the standards set by Srila Prabhupada for his own spiritual daughters. For those who were absent when these were outlined, you can find papers and recollections by Srila Prabhupada's senior female disciples (e.g. Joytirmayi, Visakha and Malati prabhus) at: http://www.chakra.org/mainpages/women/index.htm For those who do not have web access, I'd be glad to e-mail these papers to you directly. Ys, Madhusudani dasi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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