Guest guest Posted August 7, 1998 Report Share Posted August 7, 1998 > > [Text 1566551 from COM] > > Varnashram, means, being situated in the position where YOU REALLY FIT IN. To > do this you must listen to your heart, your feelings. You must go internal, > and introspect, and be honest with yourself. Those who are not honest, for > reasons known only to themselves, will not be able to maintain an artificial > position.... > > Therefore we see sannyasis, wanting to get married, or gurus, wanting to get > married and give up the dry renunciation that could not fill their empty > hearts, with spiritual happiness.... > > any feedback? > Your fallen servant Pracetana dasi ======================================================== Hare Krsna dasi I know that many of our sannyasis have disappointed us by not being able to maintain their vows in the long term. Some of them, I guess I'm thinking especially of Kirtananda, turned out to be real power mongers who were not actually faithful to Srila Prabhupada, but instead tried to supplant him and receive all his glory for themselves. But for many of them, I believe that they took their vows with all sincerity and to the best of their "internal knowledge," but it just turned out that they were not actually prepared to maintain those vows for the decades ahead of them. I feel like that is an honest mistake. Their downfall is certainly a tragedy, not only for them, but also for others that depended on them. To break the vow of sannyasa is a serious thing. But, I don't think it is really fair to imply that everyone who has fallen originally aspired to sannyasa with motivations for power and glory. To spread the movement, Srila Prabhupada needed men with no family connection who could devote their full attention on organizing and spreading Krsna consciousness. These young men were willing to try to make that sacrifice. They had the conviction that they could do it. Can you imagine-- many of them were only in their 20s when they took sannyasa. They were just 20 year-old kids, but out of their love for Srila Prabhupada they wanted to step forward and do this work for him. At that age, how could they know what they would actually be capable of in the decades to come? Some would be able to maintain their vows, others wouldn't. They didn't have the self-knowledge that would have come from years of experience, and the advice of senior Godbrothers, or even devotee parents. They did what they believed was right at the time, but they simply misjudged their own ability to push on in the long run. They misjudged their actual emotional needs. So, I really don't think that it is fair to dismiss every fallen sannyasi as simply a pretender who could not be honest with himself. They sacrificed so much, but in the end, some had needs that they were too young to understand when they took sannyasa. I don't think it is fair to simply lump them all into one category and label them all as hypocrites. And, as noted by others, the idea of giving sannyasa at such a young age was something that had to be done in the emergency of trying to start the Krsna consciousness movement. As the society matures, we will have the benefit of waiting until most candidates are a little older before awarding sannyasa. That way there will be fewer disappointments. But in the meantime, let's not overlook the sacrifice of those who tried, but failed to make it to the end. your servant, Hare Krsna dasi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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