Guest guest Posted September 27, 2004 Report Share Posted September 27, 2004 PAMHO AGTSP! > Untrue, because Srila Prabhupada did spend time defeating their arguments. real brahmanas know how to spend time on defeating arguments. Srila Prabhupada knew it. he didn't get into wrangling. I don't think all devotees engaged in defeating arguments belong to brahmana category (this doesn't imply I do, and that's why i don't take much part in it) . so the point is those who are brahmanas should continue creating more brahmanas and defeat arguments following in the footsteps of SP, i.e. with a goal to help women, not just defeat them. How many women became SP's servants after hearing him defeat women lib arguments? many many! that's because of his genuine intention and brahminical presentation, etc.. and how many are going against men after getting "defeated" by men now? there is something wrong, prabhu. and that's what i tred to point out. > Siva because of her womanly weakness. In other words, womanly weakness > exists even in the relationship between husband and wife. Generally, > separation between husband and wife is due to womanly behavior; divorce > takes place due to womanly weakness. The best course for a woman is to > abide by the orders of her husband. That makes family life very peaceful. > Sometimes there may be misunderstandings between husband and wife, as > found even in such an elevated family relationship as that of Sati and > Lord Siva, but a wife should not leave her husband's protection because of > such a misunderstanding. If she does so, it is understood to be due to her > womanly weakness. thank you for the quote. i remember it now. we have to notice, however, how Lord Shiva dealt with Sati when she was going against his good advice--- he let her do it rather than saying "I am your husband and you got to listen to me, or else get lost". This is the difference. And when Sati got into problem, Lord Shiva didn't say "good, good, now you understand the result of not listening to me". He simply devastated Daksa's assembly in support of Sati. Srila Prabhupada also let his son touch the fan when he was adamant. But all this is for helping their dependents, not for establishing their own superiority. If all men are trying to help women by pointing out their faluts then it's fine but I have some doubt about it and that's why I wrote little bit about it. thank you for hearing me and for letting me do so. > > if I say that 1st floor of my house collapsed because 2nd floor > > collapsed over it, then it may be true but then the point is why the 1st > > floor wasn't built strong enough? this is why a boy is trained in > > brahmacharyashram before he gets into grihasthashram. if he has no > > strength of understanding and tolerating wife's nonsense then the > > marriage will break soon "due to" wife's fault. > > So it works other way around too..... but the first floor holds more responsibility :-). > > womanly weakness could also be in men. > > How is that so? it's not new. the extreme is found in homosexuals. > That's why I removed all other information from my email address. (LOL) and yet it's not difficult to find it out :-) and I can always confirm it with someone who knows you. btw, once i wrote to a devotee, who i thought was an SP disciple, a private letter asking for forgiveness for arguing with him in a conference and the funny thing is he didn't even say he wasn't SP disciple! later on i found he was contaminated by rtvik-maya vada.... my prayers for him. Hare Krishna. ys, bbd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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