A sannyasi keeps 'his' donations - is this a joke?

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Vijaya-venugopala prabhu wrote:

 

> No doubt some sannyasis may have (or may still do, I have no first hand

> knowledge) utilised donations given to them, for their own sense

> gratification. But I do not think it is correct to say that guru daksina

> should be automatically surrendered by the sannyasi to some temple.

 

It does not have to go necessarily for "sense gratification."

Like, having a house. A bank balance. This is just economical

security. OK for grhastas. Not for sannyasi.

 

As far as guru daksina, the question is not really of

"automatically surrendering" it to a temple, but NOT *keeping*

it back.

 

BTW, may I ask you, why do you think that a sannyasi should

not "surrender" money that he gets as a guru daksina to

ISKCON temple, or some other ISKCON project? What he gonna

to do with it?

 

 

> Guru daksina is a voluntary donation given by someone to his/her guru. If

> he/she wanted the money to go to the temple, he would have done that

> himself in the first place.

 

 

This is not the business of a sannyasi to think like that.

It does not matter at all out of what reason a person gives

a donation to a sannyasi (a sadhu). It is sannyas' business to

get rid of it, right away.

 

> How can someone else infringe on the desires

> of the donor to give to his guru, by making a rule that the guru should

> give it to the temple? I, for one, would strongly object if someone tried

> to divert my donations by such rules.

 

"My" donation is the wrong idea.

It is **Krsna's** donation, when we speak of *sannyasi*.

A sannyas (or any Krsna conscious person, for that matter)

ought to think, "Oh, this person gave money to me, but

it is for Krsna actually. Let me give it to the temple,

immediately."

 

It does not have to be the temple. I don't know, there are

other possibilities. But it is WRONG for a sannyasi (be he

a guru or not) to keep money. He is not a true sannyasi then.

Either danda or money. The two don't go together.

 

 

It is already enough that a sannyas is fully maintained

by the temple, that he gets all the best facilities.

On top of that, since he is a sannyas(guru), and people

give donation to him because of his position (no body gives

to some Dasa das or some Devi dasi), now he will claim, "It's

my donation. Not the temple money." WRONG.

 

This guru-daksina business is spoiling ISKCON and people.

Money is powerful. Our gurus may be competing to get

more followers simply in order to get more money from

them, thus insuring their position of control in the

society. Yes, the rules seem to be simple everywhere.

You got money, you rule.

 

 

I do not need to quote any sastra on this subject, to

support my statements about how it is wrong for a

sannyasi to be keeping "his" money, do I?

 

 

Where are the "Vedics"? Anybody there out? Please speak out.

Don't be so shy.

 

 

 

 

ys mnd