Guest guest Posted November 4, 1999 Report Share Posted November 4, 1999 > There is something called "action" and there is something called > "reaction". The child-abuse is an "action". What is the "reaction"? > No reaction? Is ISCKON immune on that? Is it that whatever bad happen > to us must be seen as abuse on us, only? This is what I would rather > call - inconsistence in philosophical understandings. sorry to interrupt but imho there seems to be a genuine confusion among many practitioners of KC in ISKCON about karma (action), karma-phala (reaction/result) and the free will of individuals. Obviously I am not the knower of it either but I want to say something about it. making it short and taking the above example, it's true that the child abuse was vikarma and the court case against it a vikarmic reaction, but the reason why devotees shouldn't take shelter of courts is a question of utilising thier free will. If some devotees go to court it may not be something new they will create since by the law of nature some reaction of the child abuse may be already due by this time, but the point is Krishna devotees can use their free will, avoide going to court, and let the nature find its own way to bring out the reaction of the vikarma committed by some people. This way they will be able to avoid becoming servants of material nature and push themselves more towards becoming servants of Lord Krishna. This is the point. now someone may argue that "but material nature is also working under Lord Krishna's direction and so why not help her (servant of the servant)"? Fine, then you may want to go ahead, but Lord Krishna Doesn't recommend it. He says that by surrendering unto Him, by becoming His servant, we can overcome the material nature, His daivi maya. So He recognises the material nature as something His servants should overcome. Now it's upto us who we want to work for. ys, bb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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