Stable Marriage or a Stepford Wife?

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You see Prabhu, I stated and proved it that the Vedic standard is that the

wife is supposed to be "inferior" and "equal" to her husband. Then all of a

sudden I get all these "but but but but and but." No need for all these

"buts." It is very clear that Vedic culture is for the best interest of all

it's followers(!). It is due to the raksasa feministic influence and

propaganda that we think women are being exploited and mistreated by those

who are attempting to follow Vedic standards. That's why there is all this

unnecessary addition to a simple and innocent statement. I conduct a

congregational preaching program and in all these years I've never met an

exploited woman, but I did meet lots of impudent and unsubmissive devotee

women who due to their demonic modern western upbringing don't live up to

the standard given by Srila Prabhupada.

 

 

> PAMHO AGTSP!

>

> > Untrue, because Srila Prabhupada did spend time defeating their

> > arguments.

>

> real brahmanas know how to spend time on defeating arguments. Srila

> Prabhupada knew it. he didn't get into wrangling. I don't think all

> devotees engaged in defeating arguments belong to brahmana category (this

> doesn't imply I do, and that's why i don't take much part in it) . so the

> point is those who are brahmanas should continue creating more brahmanas

> and defeat arguments following in the footsteps of SP, i.e. with a goal to

> help women, not just defeat them.

>

> How many women became SP's servants after hearing him defeat women lib

> arguments? many many! that's because of his genuine intention and

> brahminical presentation, etc.. and how many are going against men after

> getting "defeated" by men now? there is something wrong, prabhu. and

> that's what i tred to point out.

>

> > Siva because of her womanly weakness. In other words, womanly weakness

> > exists even in the relationship between husband and wife. Generally,

> > separation between husband and wife is due to womanly behavior; divorce

> > takes place due to womanly weakness. The best course for a woman is to

> > abide by the orders of her husband. That makes family life very

> > peaceful. Sometimes there may be misunderstandings between husband and

> > wife, as found even in such an elevated family relationship as that of

> > Sati and Lord Siva, but a wife should not leave her husband's protection

> > because of such a misunderstanding. If she does so, it is understood to

> > be due to her womanly weakness.

>

> thank you for the quote. i remember it now.

>

> we have to notice, however, how Lord Shiva dealt with Sati when she was

> going against his good advice--- he let her do it rather than saying "I am

> your husband and you got to listen to me, or else get lost". This is the

> difference. And when Sati got into problem, Lord Shiva didn't say "good,

> good, now you understand the result of not listening to me". He simply

> devastated Daksa's assembly in support of Sati. Srila Prabhupada also let

> his son touch the fan when he was adamant. But all this is for helping

> their dependents, not for establishing their own superiority.

>

> If all men are trying to help women by pointing out their faluts then it's

> fine but I have some doubt about it and that's why I wrote little bit

> about it. thank you for hearing me and for letting me do so.

>

> > > if I say that 1st floor of my house collapsed because 2nd floor

> > > collapsed over it, then it may be true but then the point is why the

> > > 1st floor wasn't built strong enough? this is why a boy is trained in

> > > brahmacharyashram before he gets into grihasthashram. if he has no

> > > strength of understanding and tolerating wife's nonsense then the

> > > marriage will break soon "due to" wife's fault.

> >

> > So it works other way around too.....

>

> but the first floor holds more responsibility :-).

>

> > > womanly weakness could also be in men.

> >

> > How is that so?

>

> it's not new. the extreme is found in homosexuals.

>

> > That's why I removed all other information from my email address. (LOL)

>

> and yet it's not difficult to find it out :-) and I can always confirm it

> with someone who knows you.

>

> btw, once i wrote to a devotee, who i thought was an SP disciple, a

> private letter asking for forgiveness for arguing with him in a conference

> and the funny thing is he didn't even say he wasn't SP disciple! later on

> i found he was contaminated by rtvik-maya vada.... my prayers for him.

>

> Hare Krishna.

>

> ys, bbd