Guest guest Posted December 4, 1999 Report Share Posted December 4, 1999 Hare Krsna... Harsi prabhu, I'm wrong many times, yet I wonder if you'd take a second look at your statement > " But what is vedic anyway, the other day I was > reading for example that the culture of the woman wearing saris was > introduced by the muslims in India, so another conception of something being > vedic gone." Such a neat surgical amputation of a "seemingly Vedic custom", are you really sure about your information? Then Srimati Radharani and the asta-sakhi's of Goloka Vrndavana are under "Muslim influence", in that they wear sari's? Sari's aren't Vedic my dear nephew, they're the eternal dress of the spiritual realm..the Vedic culture means to move as far as possible to the full spiritual identity and life of the eternal soul, on the mundane plane. ...I suggest a little more hesitancy before making a flat statement like, "so another conception of something Vedic gone"...........as they say, "count to ten", then speak, something I'm still trying to perfect. your well wisher and uncle, Dina Sharana d. > > > Ys, > Harsi das Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 1999 Report Share Posted December 4, 1999 > > Sometimes I really ask myself if Prabhupada wanted to introduce the > culture of renunciation of material things why he didn,t start monasterys > and many temples in India where real brahmacaris and sanyasis are residing > are a kind of monasteries, where those who wanted to follow this path > could do it without mixing with the oposite sex. The way he chose to > organise things in ISKCON are more a kind of mixing two cultures to fit > the needs of the individuels, indeed nothing vedic, or like Abhirama > prabhu whould say "having a vedic perspective." There is no question of mixing two cultures, because there is nothing western about men standing in front of the women in a church, there is nothing western about men and women living together in the same monastery (temple), there is nothing western about monks and nuns fighting in front of the altar. Such things are unheard of in the western, or budist, or muslim or any other culture. These things happen only in ISKCON. Western culture is that men and women live together in a families and on Sundays they go to a curch. They stay together in the curch or if they are separated, then men stand (sit) on one side and women on the other. For those who are renounciets there are monasteries, separated monasteries for men and separated monasteries for women. There is nothing western, or vedic, or indian, or budist or whatever, about renounciets (sannyasis) managing a society. Such things are unheard of. Renounciets have always been living outside of society so they didn't have to mix and fight with women who will be the first one in front of the altar. Actually, it is the women who belong to a society and not a renounciets, if we should say it clearly. It is renounciets who are supposed to live outside of the society and completely depend on God. So, the question is what is ISKCON supposed to be? Monastery or a society? What ISKCON is right now, that we all know - it is A BIG MESS. Ys. Sraddha dd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 1999 Report Share Posted December 5, 1999 At 9:02 AM -0500 12/4/99, Douglas Greenberg wrote: >[Text 2830335 from COM] > >Hare Krsna... > > Harsi prabhu, I'm wrong many times, yet I wonder if you'd take a second >look at your statement > >> " But what is vedic anyway, the other day I was >> reading for example that the culture of the woman wearing saris was >> introduced by the muslims in India, so another conception of something being >> vedic gone." > > Such a neat surgical amputation of a "seemingly Vedic custom", are you >really sure about your information? Then Srimati Radharani and the >asta-sakhi's >of Goloka Vrndavana are under "Muslim influence", in that they wear sari's? > Sari's aren't Vedic my dear nephew, they're the eternal dress of the >spiritual realm..the Vedic culture means to move as far as possible to the >full >spiritual identity and life of the eternal soul, on the mundane plane. ...I >suggest a little more hesitancy before making a flat statement like, "so >another >conception of something Vedic gone"...........as they say, "count to ten", >then >speak, something I'm still trying to perfect. > >your well wisher and uncle, >Dina Sharana d. Your sane comments are like fresh breezes in what is becoming a very inhospitable and parched ISKCON cultural atmosphere. Thanks. ys. JMd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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