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Thank you, my dear Lord Krishna, for giving me such a magnanimous and kind

spiritual master as Srila Prabhupada, who is distributing the mercy of

Mahaprabhu to the entire world, even to lowly women.

 

In response to Ameyatma Prabhu's post, I'd like to offer this quote from my

elevated Godsister, Visakha prabhu's, recent paper:

 

"A devotee is not challenged or threatened by another’s growth in Krsna’s

service, but rejoices in it. A devotee does not impose gender consciousness

on aspiring Vaisnavas. Such superficial cutting and clamping is the behavior

of those who lack understanding, who confuse Srila Prabhupada’s words with

their own conceptions. Allow all to grow in their areas of interest. Let us

all blossom for Krsna’s pleasure. Srila Prabhupada writes, “No one should

try to check a person, no matter what his present position is, from coming

to the platform of a brahmana or a Vaisnava.” (Bhag., 5.26.23 purport)

And,“Vaisnave jati-buddhih. If anyone considers a Vaisnava, a devotee of the

Lord, in the categorical estimation of birth, then that is hellish

consideration.” (Bhag., 6.1.41-42 lecture), and, “So far as your question

regarding women, I have always accepted the service of women without any

discrimination…” (letter to Gurudasa, 1972)"

 

All glories to Srila Prabhupada!

 

aspiring to serve,

Mamata devi dasi

 

 

 

 

On Thu, 9 Dec 99 22:14 +0400, COM: Basu Ghosh (das) ACBSP (Baroda - IN)

wrote:

 

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>

> Here is where I do agree that SP did make room for 2 standards. The

women

> who were joining off the streets, who had modern schooling and modern

ideas,

> he did try to teach them to become submissive wives, and did want to see

> they were all married.

 

 

>

> So, yes, Plato, Soccratees, Pythagorus, Kant, Narad Muni, Chanakya,

> Einstien, Edison, Ben Franklin, Issac Newton, De Vinci, SP, to name a few

> off the top of my head, they are all men. What great female thinkers are

> there in hisotry (outside of very unique and special Vaishnavis, such as

> Sarasvati)? So, he told his own lady disciples that actually shastra

and

> philosophy is mostly only for the men.

>

> So, yes, I have found really only one standard that he preached, the

Vedic

> standard. And for our children, our own daughters, that he instructed -

> train them to become submissive wives - no school, school for girls is a

> mistake - but, for these older women who were joining, for those he

started

> the brahmacarini ashrams, for those mataji's he made some concessions -

if

> they could not fully accept and follow the more strict Vedic standards.

>

> ys ameyatma

 

 

 

 

 

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