Guest guest Posted March 12, 1999 Report Share Posted March 12, 1999 > > I've just find in mailbox a message from "Ask HDG" conference > about a topic, which is significant. I wanted to fully understand the same > thing about this verse long time ago. So let's try a brainstorm session > about it, shall we? > I'm still a bit confused, even with HDG answer. HH HDG answered that what he was asked, i.e. how a sudra may become a brahmana. Well, by seriously practicing KC. That is not confusing, though. Every human being is supposed to advance in his spiritual life and not to stay on the level that will provide him with another birth and another possibility for degrading even more. In that sense I do not find it confusing that a sudra also is expected to rise up to the highest level of the human life and thus get the chance for the braking out the circle of the repeating birth and death. Just as Prabhupada writes in that purport: <<"He says that persons following the paths of karma-kanda and jnana-kanda (fruitive activities and speculative thinking) are missing the opportunities for human birth and gliding down into the cycle of birth and death. Thus there is always the chance that he may be put into the Puyoda Naraka, the hell named Puyoda, where one is forced to eat stool, urine, pus, mucus, saliva and other abominable things.">> And that is our position, isn't it? This is about us, low born sudras with the pile of bad habits and qualities. And we are trying now to develop some brahminical qualities, aren't we? Why remain in the described category: "The shameless husbands of lowborn sudra women live exactly like animals, and therefore they have no good behavior, cleanliness or regulated life." ??? I think it is all fine with the idea that we are supposed to become brahmanas and, finally, Vaisnavas. In some life time, at least, perhaps... Isn't what ISKCON is all about, after all? That's what we preach all the time to the people, at least: "Don't miss the purpose of the human life! Elevate yourself". I find it a paradox that ISKCON devotees (who were till recently engaging themselves in all kind of low class and sinful activities, perhaps even worse than low class "vedic" sudras) to be in the situation to be now confused over - "it's difficult to understand how a sudra by guna and karma can adopt the guna and karma of a brahmana, as specified by Srila Prabhupada." Just look at yourself. Well, as you did (are doing) it, so other sudras can also. No kidding. ys mnd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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