Stable Marriage or a Stepford Wife?

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PAMHO AGTSP!

 

> No blaming, but for the sake of preaching, mistakes need to be pointed

> out. Just see how Srila Prabhupada dealt with mundane scientists.

 

pointing out mistakes for helping them is ok, especially when they are

practicing or aspiring devotees but have some misunderstanding about womens'

role.

 

> > that's why Srila Prabhupada emphasized on creating brahmanas rather than

> > spending time in defeating women lib arguments.

>

> That's so untrue. He did both things: creating brahmanas and pointing out

> mistakes of ignorant feminists.

 

untrue or incomplete?

 

> In 1975 there was much protest in American newspapers over Srila

> Prabhupada's assertion that women are less intelligent than men. Several

> women reporters came to interview Srila Prabhupada, but he would not

> compromise with them. Totally frustrated, a lady journalist once stormed

> out, slamming the door. Srila Prabhupada just laughed. The press coverage

> went from bad to worse, but Srila Prabhupada stood by his principles.

 

it's glorious and I am really proud of having such a great personality as my

param guru.

 

> A critic might contend that Srila Prabhupada could have handled these

> situations in a more sensitive, careful manner.

 

such critics are simply fools and don't know Srila Prabhupada's position.

 

> Although on many occasions

> Srila Prabhupada did deal tactfully, often he chose to fight -- sometimes

> by all out attack.

 

Srila Prabhupada was and is perfect in all that he said / says and all that

he did / does. No exception!

 

> > if we can show by our own

> > example how to act as husbands and men then naturally the women / wives,

> > being subordinate by nature, will follow.

>

> Prabhu, I dissagree with this one too. Srila Prabhupada said that when

> there is divorce it is the wife's fault.

 

i don't exactly know in which context he said it but if he did say so then

it must be.

 

if I say that 1st floor of my house collapsed because 2nd floor collapsed

over it, then it may be true but then the point is why the 1st floor wasn't

built strong enough? this is why a boy is trained in brahmacharyashram

before he gets into grihasthashram. if he has no strength of understanding

and tolerating wife's nonsense then the marriage will break soon "due to"

wife's fault.

 

So it's true what Srila Prabhupada said but it depends on us in what sense

we take it. If we try to take advantage of it and blame women, then we will

have to be prepared to face the consequences, i.e. the ugly face of women

lib or an ever complaining wife and divorce. And if we take the blame on us,

then we will lose nothing but make ourselves stronger and grihasthasram

peaceful. gradually a time will come when the wife will start understanding

her faults and if not, will start listening to our pointing out her faults.

Then only can we help her.

 

> That means that men and women

> need to be educated, not only men.

 

yes, the point is men is supposed to educate women. not in universities but

in home. if men instead of educating women keep pointing at their faults,

then what is the hope for such a society?

 

> Generally, separation between husband and wife is due to womanly behavior;

> divorce takes place due to womanly weakness.

 

womanly weakness could also be in men.

 

anyway prabhu, I refrain from saying more partly because I don't know much

about yourself--- wheather you are senior or junior, elder or younger, Srila

Prabhupada disciple or his granddisciple, etc. but what I mean to say is

even if we know that women are at fault we don't lose anything in accepting

the blame and at the same time caringly making them aware of their fault, in

a way they can take it.

 

yes, a wife is supposed to be subservient to her husband but then all living

entities are also servants of the Supreme Lord. Why then the Lord comes

all the way to this hellish world and takes humble postion to teach us

something?

 

Even animals become submissive to a caring master. what to speak of a human

beings? the condition is, the care taken or shown has to be genuine. We

have to learn this from Srila Prabhupada, our perfect master.

 

Hare Krishna.

 

ys, bbd