Guest guest Posted December 31, 1998 Report Share Posted December 31, 1998 The 5th of December Madhava Gosh Prabhu wrote: >Similarly, not everyone who fights is a ksatriya. Some are >sudras assisting ksatriyas. Earlier in ISKCON, anyone who >liked guns and reading Soldier of Fortune magazine was classed >as ksatriya. IMHO, they were sudras who should have been >serving ksatriyas. So a security guard may be a sudra, but >doing so under a system of government meaning that allows >security guards to exist , he is more a sudra serving a >ksatriya, like the head of the security agency would be more a >ksatriya. Being a ksatriya includes fighting as a tool of >governance, but not every fighter is a ksatriya. And later on Jatukarnya Prabhu wrote: >The administrating warrior you mention naturally has to be a >ksatriya. Will the people he (i.e.) trains in battle be >considered ksatriyas or sudras? Anyone knows anything from >sastra on this? Well, I tried to make little research in the laws of Manu, so here is my opinion. Sudras can serve to Ksatryas, without doubts: 121. If a Sudra, (unable to subsist by serving Brahmanas,) seeks a livelihood, he may serve Kshatriyas, or he may also seek to maintain himself by attending on a wealthy Vaisya. 122. But let a (Sudra) serve Brahmanas, either for the sake of heaven, or with a view to both (this life and the next); for he who is called the servant of a Brahmana thereby gains all his ends. But from another part of laws, it's clear that their was not military. They could clean weapons of their master, repair his suit, bring water for him, etc., but no one sudra was allowed to carry weapons or arms and to participate in fights. This part of job was entirely given to ksatriyas and king. Of course, as we know from many stories, there were also hunters and robbers, who also carried weapons, but they were outcasted and anyway they never participated in military activities. In the laws of Manu all the soldiers and warriors were refered as ksatriyas, and it was expected from them to follow the code of ksatriyas. Most important thing, which was expected from ksatryas, is to bestow protection, and sudras simply unqualified to do it, their motto was different, so they don't fit in fightings. In our present time, every strong man is able to fight, but not everyone will like to live in military campus and strickly follow military etiquette. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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