Guest guest Posted December 5, 1999 Report Share Posted December 5, 1999 > > > > > Sridhari dd. wrote: > > > > > I agree with you that the kitchen isn't the only place for a women, > > > but > a > > > women in a leading position is dangerous. I am speaking and I am also > in a > > > women body, Harsi prabhu wrote: > > Why should a woman in a leading position be dangerous? Dangerous for > > whom and what? Maybe you know something what I don,t know since I am a > > man... > Woman in leading position is not dangerous. This statement is an insult to my beloved Vrinda devi who is the main manager in the spiritual world. She is managing all the pastimes of Radha and Krishna. Women have always been in managment, men have always been managing, some renounciets have been managing sometimes, mainly monasteries. Women have been in managment always, in all cultures, both in the material and the spiritual world. It's not the question if women should be managing, because they are doing that anyway, the question is rather what, where and how should they be managing. It is not a woman in leading position that is dangerous, but rather the combination renouncietes and women together in leading position that is dangerous. This kind of practice never existed in any culture of any time. It is dangerous for both renounciets and the women, because there is a danger of developing material attachment. Why is there danger for developing material attachment? Because it is the nature of male and female to be attracted to each other. Attraction between male and female is spiritual and it exist on all levels, everywhere, eternaly. God is one, but He has devided Himself into two (Radha, Krishna) for the purpose of enjoyment. He has devided Himself into male and female to experience exchange of love. Love is spiritual and attraction between male and female is spiritual. Both exist in Krishna and they are spiritual and eternal. The purpose of attraction between male and female is to bring about exchange of love. Attraction between male and female and love exist everywhere on all levels, because they exist in Krishna. The way we experience this attraction and love depends on our concsiousness. Denying this attraction it is the same as denying our very nature. We, as living entities, are part of Krishna, we are His energy (marginal) and we are qualitatively equal with Him. We are of the same nature as Krishna. So, this attraction between male and female and desire to love and receive love exist in us, and are spiritual. They exist in both renouncietes and women. The danger of mixing renounciets and women manifest only for those who are not fully selfrealised, because this combination might provoke the desire to once again try to enjoy seperated from Krishna. Besides that, there are certain codes of behaviour for certain groups in a society. One of them is that renounciets (sannyasis) don't mix with women, and vice versa. Another one is that renounciets are those who have given up society, so they are socially dead men. Sridhari prabhu wrote: >Second, have a look at the history: > wich place where a woman has been leading was success? > Cleopatra? She had lots of lover-relationship with diferent persons to > increase his interest Dear Sridhari prabhu, compering ISKCON women to Cleopatra is insult both to Cleopatra and to ISKCON women. First, there is no woman in ISKCON who is that beautiful as Cleopatra, second, there is no ISKCON woman who would act in the same way Cleopatra did (atleast, I hope so). Third, this example shows just what can hapen if unqualified men manage. They fall for the womans beauty and she can turn them around her finger. Ys. Sraddha dd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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