Radha Krsna lila-the only remedy for lust!

[Guest guest]

> Bhadra Balaram Prabhu wrote:

>

> > If we do get

> > attracted by any of such material beauties (of opposite sex and in

> > kaliyuga also homosex!) then it means we are not attracted to Their

> > pastimes.

>

> Please quote sastra for this one.

 

you have alredy quoted it! i was just supporting it. pl read again your

quotation:

 

> When one is attracted by

> the transcendental beauty of Radha and Krsna, he is no longer attracted by

> material feminine beauty.

 

isn't it clear from this quote that the parameter to check whether we are

factually attracted to Sri Sri Radha-Krishna lila is because of our

spiritual advancement or is it because it talks about romance, is to see if

we ever get attracted to material feminine beauty? and so it automatically

means that if we do get attracted by any of such material beauties (of

opposite sex and in kaliyuga also homosex!) then we should know we are not

attracted to Their pastimes.

 

Srila Prabhupada emphatically states "he is no longer attracted by

material feminine beauty". He is NO LONGER attracted by material beauty. So

if he is attracted by such beauty then it simply means he is not attracted

by Radha Krishna lila. I hope this is more clear.

 

ys, bb

[Guest guest]

Dear Nayana Ranjana Prabhu,

 

Please accept my humble obeisances. All glories to Srila Prabhupada and

ISKCON.

 

> Bhadra Balaram Prabhu wrote:

>

> > If we do get

> > attracted by any of such material beauties (of opposite sex and in

> > kaliyuga also homosex!) then it means we are not attracted to Their

> > pastimes.

 

This is a statement of high understanding and deep realisation. This is simply

perfect.

 

> Please quote sastra for this one. We may have some attraction for Radha &

> Krsna but traces of the attraction for Maya also may linger in the heart

> till we achieve the bhava platform. Ofcourse attarction to Maya does'nt mean

> that we indulge in it.

 

Krishna Consciousness is not a science of quotations. It is a science of

(self/God) realisation.

 

Any way to quote shastra, I recommend re-reading of "Bhagavadgita As It Is "

complete 3rd chapter with purports (especially those verses with the word

*lust*).

 

Based on your comments above I think you are confused with the words

*attractions* and *inclination/propensity*. A devotee is full like an ocean.

The attractions of Maya are always there, but the devotee does not have an

inclination or propensity to those attractions.

 

Bhadra Balaram Prabhu's statement is all glorious, as it helps any Sadhana

devotee in one's own self analysis, which Srila Prabhupada recommends.

 

Ofcourse, at Sadhana stage there are devotees at various levels on the path to

perfection, and at this stage I agree with you that to the extant one is

surrendered (surrendered is a better word than attracted) to Krishna to that

extant one is protected from maya. Also there is this *Vipralamba Seva*.

 

Surrender to Lord Krishna under the direction of a bonafide spiritual master is

the only remedy for lust, and that is the sum and substance of Bg 3rd chapter,

sorry the whole of Bhagavadgita, sorry the combined teachings of Srila

Prabhupada and all the past, present and future Acaryas.

 

Please pray for me,

 

> Your servant,

> Nayana-raJjana dAsa

 

Your humble servant,

Bhadra Govinda Das.

 

P.S: I am going out of station for 3 weeks and I may not regularly access my

mail, so I may not regularly participate in this discussion. Kindly excuse me.

[Guest guest]

May I be so bold (or foolish) to comment here? There is nothing wrong with

the quotes sent by any of the contributors, neither Nayan Ranjan nor Bhadra

Balaram or anyone else. Nayan Ranjan sends many quotes and if he sends one

that may be better appreciated by devotees on a high level, it doesn't mean

he has become a sahajiya.

 

Different quotes are for different people, and there is no harm for a

devotee to be aware of those that don't apply to him at his present stage.

 

"Everyone should get married.Marriage should be avoided as much as

possible." Both are quotes from Srila Prabhupada. Both are true to sastra.

Both are correct. It requires a little transcendental intelligence (as

distinguished from mundane intelligence) to understand how this can be so.

[Guest guest]

May I be so bold (or foolish) to comment here? There is nothing wrong with

the quotes sent by any of the contributors, neither Nayan Ranjan nor Bhadra

Balaram or anyone else. Nayan Ranjan sends many quotes and if he sends one

that may be better appreciated by devotees on a high level, it doesn't mean

he has become a sahajiya.

 

Different quotes are for different people, and there is no harm for a

devotee to be aware of those that don't apply to him at his present stage.

 

"Everyone should get married.Marriage should be avoided as much as

possible." Both are quotes from Srila Prabhupada. Both are true to sastra.

Both are correct. It requires a little transcendental intelligence (as

distinguished from mundane intelligence) to understand how this can be so.

[Guest guest]

> Different quotes are for different people, and there is no harm for a

> devotee to be aware of those that don't apply to him at his present stage.

 

....provided he/she honestly recognises his/her present stage. Hare Krishna!

 

thankyou for the input maharaj.

 

ys, bb

[Guest guest]

> Different quotes are for different people, and there is no harm for a

> devotee to be aware of those that don't apply to him at his present stage.

 

....provided he/she honestly recognises his/her present stage. Hare Krishna!

 

thankyou for the input maharaj.

 

ys, bb