Guest guest Posted May 8, 2002 Report Share Posted May 8, 2002 Dear and respected His Holiness Bhakti Vikasa Maharaja, PAMHO. AGTSP. AGTYH. Thank you Maharaja for your time and comment. I am blessed. All your coomments are truths. Similarly mine also as they are also based on Guru, Sadhu and Shastra. I wrote that comment with the following understanding. Please forgive me and correct me if I am wrong. 1. In *general* women are considered less intelligent than men. No one should find fault or feel offended if the shastra says so, as shastra is apaurusheya. 2. In *general* men are less intelligent like women in Kaliyuga. Kalau sudra sambhavah. No one should find fault or feel offended if the shastra says so, as shastra is apaurusheya. These are general statements. However Lord Krishna or his representative do not consider this differences for self realisation and bhakti. Caturvarnyam maya srustam and two verses before that 'samoham sarva bhutesu' show that the Supreme Lord and His devotee are, impartial. But in *particular*, case to case Lord and His agents evaluate each individual living entity. Every man and every woman are evaluated according to his/her guna and karma. If a brahmana's wife is following her husband then she is brahmani. If a bramana's wife is not following her husband then she is not brahmani. Also if a brahmana falls down and the wife does not fall down then wife is still considered a brahmani. Just like if a disciple does not follow a fallen guru he is still considered a vaisnava. That is what I meant when I said society is divided according to guna and karma in any yuga, man or woman. That is the difference between Daivy VAD and rubber stamp VAD. In general women should follow husbands who are following their dharma, but women need not follow those husbands who are not following their dharma. Most of us have rejected our families and come to Srila Prabhupada. Is it not? In SB 6.17.36 immediately in the next verse, it is said mother Parvati became steady in intelligence. That is by Lord Siva's association and instruction she became steady in intelligence. A sudrani also can become steady in intelligence by following a bonafide spiritual master, like Srila Prabhupada, whether her sudra husband follows in her footsteps or not. She can act as guru to her husband if she is more advanced than her husband. >>It may be clearly said that the understanding of a woman is always >>inferior >>to the understanding of a man. In the Western countries there is now >>agitation to the effect that man and woman should be considered equal, but >>from this verse it appears that woman is always less intelligent than man. (SB 6.17.34-35 ppt) Now compare to this statement also by Srila Prabhupada So anyway, now this Bhagavad-gita was written, was spoken to a family man, Arjuna, military man, and the whole Mahabharata is meant for stri-sudra-dvijabandhu, less qualified men. Just see. In those days less qualified men were meant for understanding Bhagavad-gita in half an hour. Just imagine what class of less intelligent persons were at that time. The same Bhagavad-gita, now scholars like Dr. Radhakrishnan, and others, so many big big scholars, they are scrutinizingly studying; still they cannot understand. But this Bhagavad-gita was meant for the less intelligent class of men of that time. Just you can imagine what class of less intelligent class and women were there. It is specially written, you will see, stri-sudra-dvijabandhunam trayi na sruti-gocara. Because woman class and less intelligent class, and these unworthy sons of the brahmanas and ksatriyas, they will not be able to understand the original Vedic literature, therefore it has been presented in a story form with historical facts so that they can understand. That was the origin of Mahabharata. By analysis of the above comment I understand, 1) As the Kali Yuga progresses, intelligence diminishes, along with strength etc,. 2) Everyone will be a sudra or less than a sudra, as kaliyuga progresses. 3) In such a scenario, you are simply comparing the less intelligent with less intelligent. comparing sudras, and less than sudras (papa yonayah), with women also supposed to be less intelligent. So you don't find much difference. That is where the confusion is. 4) So it is all relative. (material world duality). 5) If you compare with a woman, or sudra of 5000 years back to a brahmana of year 2002AD , the woman or sudra of 3000BC will be definitely more intelligent than the brahmana of year 2002. As intelligence, strength, longevity etc,. have reduced over the years. So we must compare apples with apples and oranges with oranges 6) However, if you compare a woman of 3000 BC to a brahmana (man) of 3000BC the brahmana (man) was more intelligent. That is why Mahabharata was written by Vyasadeva for the then vaisyas, women, sudras and less than sudras they could understand. And the then Brahmanas could understand the Vedas and Vedanta Sutras. But 2002 AD scholars, scientists, kings, presidents etc,,. cannot understand Bhagavadgita, which was easily understood by vaisyas, women, sudras and less than sudras in year 3000BC. Today even devotees, practicing KC for 15 years or more still cannot understand Bhagavadgita easily. That is the reason, Lord Caitanya and Nityananda made it very simple. Simply by chanting Hare Krishna one can become very intelligent and achieve the desired goal. 7) In general both ordinary women and men are less intelligent, who cannot differentiate matter from spirit in any age. 8) Any man or woman bird or beast who can differentiate matter from spirit and surrenders to Lord Krishna is most intelligent in any age. 9) So the only way of reestablishing the Daivy VAD is simply by spreading the Holy Name by preaching. There is no other way. Seeking your most auspicious blessings and merciful glance, Your humble servant, Bhadra Govinda Dasa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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