Guest guest Posted May 18, 2002 Report Share Posted May 18, 2002 Even talking only about prescribed duties in varnasrama, and not bringing in the topic of prescribed spiritual duties, I would like to add a few points. Case to case intelligence is different between men and men, women and women, men and women, with in the same asrama, with in the same varna, with in the same epoch and with in different epoch. This is a very important point to understand, before brushing off women as less intelligent, in a very generalised way. "So anyway, now this Bhagavad-gita was written, was spoken to a family man, Arjuna, military man, and the whole Mahabharata is meant for stri-sudra-dvijabandhu, less qualified men. Just see. In those days less qualified men were meant for understanding Bhagavad-gita in half an hour. Just imagine what class of less intelligent persons were at that time. The same Bhagavad-gita, now scholars like Dr. Radhakrishnan, and others, so many big big scholars, they are scrutinizingly studying; still they cannot understand. But this Bhagavad-gita was meant for the less intelligent class of men of that time. Just you can imagine what class of less intelligent class and women were there. It is specially written, you will see, stri-sudra-dvijabandhunam trayi na sruti-gocara. Because woman class and less intelligent class, and these unworthy sons of the brahmanas and ksatriyas, they will not be able to understand the original Vedic literature, therefore it has been presented in a story form with historical facts so that they can understand. That was the origin of Mahabharata." ---Srila Prabhupada. 1) In the above quote, Srila Prabhupada is mentioning that Arjuna a ksatriya, family man as less qualified man, compared to brahmanas of his epoch, was supposed to understand Bg in half an hour (first half an hour of the first day of the war at Kurushetra is obvious). 2) During Arjuna's epoch, stri, sudra and dvija bandhu are put in one bracket of intelligence, that is they are less intelligent. They could not directly understand sruti (4 Vedas etc,.). So Mahabharatha (smriti) was written for the understanding of these less intelligent classes. 3) These less intelligent people could easily understand Bg or smriti shastra during Arjuna's epoch, but could not understand sruti. 4) So here the intelligence of different classes/genders is compared and said to be high/low during the same epoch of Arjuna. Higher classes, brahmanas could understand sruti but not other classes so smriti was written for them. Agreed? 5) That means in vedic society in general women were considered to be less intelligent than brahmana men, but equal in intelligence with lower classes of men in general. 6) Stri-sudra-dvijabandu of Arjuna's epoch, are more intelligent than the most intelligent men of the current day (eg: Dr Radhakrshnan a great scholar among literary circles of current age and also ex-president of India, and Srila Prabhupada I heard, (not sure) said his gita is better among the common 500 gitas available in the market, even though not As It Is, he could not understand Bg after scrutinisingly studying, where as women of Arjuna's epoch could easily understand). 7) In general vedic women are more intelligent than the current day top intellectual men, who can be relatively classified as brahmanas of kali yuga,that is some sort of crude brahmanas. 8) Now Srila Prabhupada says, in vedic times women in general could understand atleast smriti if not sruti. 9) Today both men and women cannot understand even smriti. That means they cannot understand sruti which is even more difficult to understand. If the top intellectual class men cannot understand Bg after scrutinisingly studying what to speak of other classes. That is here all are equated. If high class men cannot understand how other classes understand. Both stri-sudra-dvijabandhu and kaliyuga brahmanas cannot understand sruti. 10) So in Kali yuga both men and women are considered to be less intelligent as far as their understanding of smriti (no need to consider sruti which is even more difficult to understnad) is considered. That way the intelligence of men and women of the same epoch, this kali yuga is equated. 11) Now where the conflict can start is, please refer to the lower classes of Arjuna's epoch. Among the stri, sudra, dvija of Arjuna's epoch, if you compare oranges to oranges, less intelligent to less intelligent, then it may turn out that some women are more intelligent than some lower class men. 12) Similarly, in the current age where all men and women in general cannot understand sruti and smriti, if you again compare less intelligent to less intelligent some women may be more intelligent than some men and vice versa. 13) In Arjuna's epoch brahmana men (apples) compared to women and other classes (oranges) then apples proved to be more intelligent. 14) That is all speaking generally. Specifically every individual has to be evaluated on individual merit of guna and karma, every man and every woman, in all ages. Additional note: Srila Prabhupada knew kaliyuga brains cannot understand sruti and smriti which is in sanskrit language, so he translated into mleccha bhasha, English out of his compassion to the fallen souls of Kaliyuga. In Arjuna's epoch, mleccha bhasha (english language) would be considered low class, compared to Sanskrit. Hare Krishna, Your humble servant, Bhadra Govinda Das. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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