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On 25 Jun 2002, Sita Devi Dasi wrote:

 

> Would you please explain, with reference(s) from Srila Prabhupada's

> teachings, how a Vedic woman would have already been situated in the "work"

> or karma of a brahmana or ksatriya before marriage. Please also show how a

> girl's and woman's caste is anything other than her father's or husband's?

>

> Your servant, Sita dd

 

"Everyone has some service to perform according to his designations. He may be

an Indian or American, Hindu, Muslim or Christian, man, woman, brahmana,

ksatriya, vaisya, sudra or whatever--in any case he is meant to do some sort

of work, and that work is his occupational duty."----Srila Prabhupada, in

Elevation to KC 6th Chapter.

 

I hope you accept this as a pramana to your query.

 

Your humble servant,

Bhadra Govinda Dasa.

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> On 3 Jul 2002, Mahat-tattva das wrote:

>

> > Mataji Urmila didn't tell us if her understanding of the matter changed

> > or not. It appears that she has more to say. If she has I would like to

> > have the discussion continued publicly.

> >

> > Thank you.

>

>

> Please accept my obeisances. All glories to Srila Prabhupada!

>

> 1) I wrote a few texts to the whole group this morning. Did you receive

> them?

 

Just now.

 

 

>

> 2) Does this discussion center around *my* understanding? If so, why?

 

No, but the ball was trown into your courtyard and that is where the

discussion ended.

 

 

>

> 3) How did this discussion (which I did not ask to join, nor initiate)

> start anyway?

 

Everything started with the following text:

 

Text PAMHO:5478398 (14 lines)

(Bhakta) Elvis Mrsa (Vodice - HR)

25-Apr-02 12:02 (14:02 +0200)

Brahmacarya [995]

Comment: Text PAMHO:5479199 by Mahat-tattva (das) (Los Angeles, CA - USA)

Srimad Bhagavatam 2. 7. 6 - from purport

---------------------------

If one wants to get freedom from the material bondage of conditional life,

he must get free from the attraction for the form of woman. Woman, or the

fair sex, is the enchanting principle for the living entities, and the male

form, especially in the human being, is meant for self-realization. The

whole world is moving under the spell of womanly attraction, and as soon as

a man becomes united with a woman, he at once becomes a victim of material

bondage under a tight knot. The desires for lording it over the material

world, under the intoxication of a false sense of lordship, specifically

begin just after the man's unification with a woman. The desires for

acquiring a house, possessing land, having children and becoming prominent

in society, the affection for community and the place of birth, and the

hankering for wealth, which are all like phantasmagoria or illusory dreams,

encumber a human being, and he is thus impeded in his progress toward

self-realization, the real aim of life.

(Text PAMHO:5478398) ------

 

 

 

 

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>

> Years ago, I dropped out of all philosophical "conferences" except those

> related to specific practical service and where all participants were both

> participating and working toward that service....

>

> 4) Is there some group here of which I am unaware that is part of some

> project involving women and women's social/spiritual position? In other

> words, is there some specific goal here, or are we simply "talking" among

> ourselves for our own edification and enlightenment? (no sarcasm intended,

> honest question only)

 

The second (as far as I am concerned).

 

Your servant,

Mahat-tattva dasa

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