Guest guest Posted July 28, 2002 Report Share Posted July 28, 2002 Dear Maharajas and Prabhus, Please accept my humble obeisances. All glories to Srila Prabhupada. All glories to the ISKCON gurus. I beg to seriously differ with Sadhu Swami's views. I think that some of the things he says are not at all in accord with Srila Prabhupada, and I also think that his quotes are taken to substantiate a very one-sided and unbalanced vision of Prabhupada's teachings. Take, for example, the following two quotes from the Caitanya Caritamrita, which counter-balance his one-sideness. (We must accept ALL of Prabhupada's teachings as a whole, and not pick this or that passage to suit our purposes): "To broadcast the cult of Krishna Consciousness, one has to learn the possibility of renunciation in terms of country, time and candidate.....He must avoid the principle of niyamagraha, that is, he should not try to perform the impossible. What is possible in one country may not be possible in another. The acarya's duty is to accept the essence of devotional service. There may be a little change here and a little change there as far as yukta-vairagya (proper renunciation) is concerned...The essence of devotional service must be taken into consideration, and not the outward paraphernalia... A Vaishnava is immediately purified, provided he follows the rules and regulations of his bonafide spiritual master. It is not necessary that the rules and regulations followed in India be exactly the same as those in Europe, America and other Western countries. Simply imitating without effect is called niyamagraha. Not following the regulative principles but instead living extravagantly is also called niyamagraha... We should not follow regulative principles without an effect, nor should we fail to accept the regulative principles. What is required is a special technique according to country, time and candidate...." M.L., Ch. 23 purport of verse 105 "An acarya who comes for the service of the Lord cannot be expected to conform to a stereotype, for he must find the ways and means by which Krishna Consciousness may be spread. Sometimes jealous persons criticize the Krishna Consciousness movement because it engages equally both boys and girls in distribution of love of Godhead. Not knowing that boys and girls in countries like Europe and America mix very freely, these fools and rascals criticize the boys and girls in Krishna Consciousness for intermingling. But these rascals should consider that one cannot suddenly change a community's social customs. However, since both boys and girls are being trained to become preachers those girls are not ordinary girls but are as good as their brothers who are preaching Krishna Consciousness. Therefore to engage both boys and girls in fully transcendental activities is a policy intended to spread the Krishna Consciousness movement... The results of this are wonderful. Both men and women are preaching the gospel of Lord Chaitanya Mahaprabhu and Lord Krishna with redoubled strength... Therefore it is a principle that a preacher must strictly follow the rules and regulations laid down in the shastras yet at the same time devise a means by which the preaching work to reclaim the fallen may go with full force." A.L. ch. 7, purport of verses 32 and 38. I would invite Maharaja to speak what he has written in the heart of North American society (devotees and non-devotees alike) and see what sort of response he would get, especially about sannyasi gurus not giving initiation to women and not even talking to them personally. Or is it that the Westerners, including the Western devotees, are so much in maya that they would not be able to appreciate these aforementioned strictures intended to save the world? Or maybe Prabhupada did not give us everything because we were too fallen, but now we can "fill in the space" and no longer give initiation to women... It's ludicrous! At a time when the woman class both inside and outside of ISKCON is raising serious questions about our proper implementation of Prabhupada's ideals on this issue, Sadhu Swami is proposing draconian measures which Prabhupada clearly did not implement. Prabhupada talked to women disciples as a loving father speaks to his daughters. Prabhupada gave them first and second initiation. But no one is saying anything about Sadhu Swami's statements... Giving initiation to women is a PRINCIPLE, just like the chanting of 16 rounds is a principle; it is NOT a detail that can be changed according to time and place.(Does anyone disagree?) Hence to experimentally play around with it is equal to flirting with philosophical deviation. And meanwhile, there is an entire modern Western civilization to save! We will not even begin to attract its attention (what to speak of saving it) by being more Catholic than the pope. Rather, meditating on our own belly-button will make us even more irrelevant to the modern world than we are today. Candrasekhar Acarya dasa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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