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May 18, 2006

Dear Satya,

I am unable to find the shloka you are mentioning in Jataka Parijata,

for Mahapurusha yoga. As far as I know, Jataka Parijata says at CH7

shloka 59:

mUliÇkae[injtu¼g&haepyata ÉaEm}jIvistÉanusuta bilóa>,

mülatrikoëanijatuìgagåhopayätä bhaumajïajévasitabhänusutä baliñöhäù|

keNÔiSwta yid tda êcÉÔh<smalVycaêzzyaegkra ÉviNt.59.

kendrasthitä yadi tadä rücabhadrahaàsamälavyacärüçaçayogakarä bhavanti||59||

_When Mangal, Budha, Guru, Shukra or Shani occupy their Moolatrikona,

own or exaltation rasi in strength and should they be placed in a

Kendra, Ruchaka, Bhadra, Hamsa, Malavya and Shasha yogas occur._

Are you referring to any other shloka? Is there any other edition of

jataka Parijata that gives any other shloka, that is with you?

I hope you are not referring to subsequent shlokas that give additional

results on account of even one of Dharmesha (9th lord), Labhesha (11th

lord) or Dhanesha (2nd lord) being in Kendra to Chandra, Guru being the

lord of Labha, for Ruchaka yoga jataka getting unlimited Kingdom.

The shloka appears in Sanskrit 99 and ULW Palladio IT fonts in alternate

lines beginning with the first line.

Awaiting your response.

By the way, it is not only a Panch Mahapurusha yoga that gives good

results in the dasha of a graha. So only because you had good Mercury

dasha, by itself would not prove that when Mercury is in Kendra from

Moon would indicate that the yoga is Panch Mahapurusha yoga. Manasagari

says that if Sun or Moon join graha causing Mahapurusha yoga, the yoga

is broken. Saravali also says similar thing.

Chandrashekhar.

Satya Sai Kolachina wrote:

> Dear Sri Chandrasekhar, Bharat and others,

>

> In Jataka Parijatham (Vaidyanatha Kritha), the author (or translator)

> expressed the view of seeing the Pancha Maha Purusha Yogas from Moon

> also. The author says, that the mahapurusha yoga occurs when any of

> these five (Mars, Merc, Jup, Venus, Saturn) planets is/are located in

> own house or exaltation, and in a kendra from either Lagna or Moon.

> He did not say Moon or Lagna whichever is strong. He clarly said

> either of them, which means he gave equal importance to Moon Rasi as

> of Lagna itself.

>

> I think different translators differ in the interpretations, and may

> be influenced by their own views/experiences.

>

> My opinion:

>

> I myself have exalted Mercury in a kendra from Moon (not from Lagna)

> and I believe my Mercury Maha dasha has been excellent and gave me

> unexpected rise in life. I am not a public figure but compared to

> where I was before and where I am, I see a change of very high

> magniture. I believe I have some of the characteristics of Bhadra

> Maha purusha yoga, though we may not accept it that way or call it

> that way. My opinion is, a planet in strength in kendra from Moon has

> its own significance, whether we call it a maha purusha yoga or not.

>

> I also have Sasa Maha Purusha Yoga from Lagna. Saturn maha dasha also

> gave me spectacular results (after extreme hardwork, because Sa in

> Kendra).

>

> If I compare the two Maha dashas, I may have to say that my Merc Maha

> dasha seems to be more superior in its results.

>

> Also one of my daughters has Bhadra maha purusha yoga with exalted in

> Mercury in 10th house along with Sun (with directional strength also

> forming Budha Aditya yoga in 10th house (with Sa in Moola Trikona not

> kendra) from Lagna and she has resemblences like characteristics,

> behavior, grasping abilities and such things very similar to me and I

> always remember my childhood when I interact with her. She also has a

> Neecha Bhanga raja yoga with Venus in Kanya, thus forming total of 3

> or 4 rajayogas in the 10th house (hers is Dhanur lagna). I am waiting

> to see her Budha maha dasha. She still has 7 yrs of Sa maha dasha to

> go. She is doing pretty well in Sa dasha also as Sa is in Moola

> trikona.

>

> Therefore, I personally believe that considering Maha purusha yoga

> from Moon Rasi is not necessarily wrong. Probably, that is what the

> experienced translators might have done. Just like any other shloka

> taken from classics and put to test, I believe considering

> Mahapurusha yogas from Moon rasi gives us some clues, rather than

> just sticking to the shlokas.

>

> Best regards,

> Satya Sai Kolachina

>

> , Chandrashekhar

> <chandrashekhar46> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Bharat,

> >

> > You are right Guru tatwa which flows through Lord Shiva will

> express

> > itself to the true seeker through any medium. I have always held

> that

> > Pt. Gopeshkumar's commentaries on classics are some of the best

> that are

> > available, as he was not dogmatic and always gave Pramana for any

> > argument that he presents. His commentary on Jataka Parijat is also

> one

> > of the best such commentary. If you do not have it, do get it.

> >

> > Take care,

> > Chandrashekhar.

> >

> > Bharat Hindu Astrology wrote:

> > > Namaskaar Sri Chandrashekharji

> > >

> > > Pt. Gopesh Kumar Ojha is most respectable to me despite the few

> errors. I

> > > have not had the fortune of having a formal guru for astrology.

> Whatever

> > > little I learnt was from books and discussions with whomsoever

> had any

> > > knowledge. "Phaldeepika" by Punditji, incidently, was the first

> book I

> > > ever

> > > read on hindu astrology. Just by its principles, I could predict.

> At that

> > > time, I did not even know that Brihat Parasara Hora Shastra

> existed.

> > >

> > > For me, Lord Shiva is the teacher for it is he who manifests in

> every

> > > teacher and makes them so. I would never disregard to disrespect

> such a

> > > teacher. I am glad you too hold him in high esteem.

> > >

> > > Thanks and Regards

> > > Bharat

> > >

> > > On 5/16/06, Chandrashekhar <chandrashekhar46> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Bharat,

> > > > That does happen with everyone. The key to the translation is

> the order

> > > > of shlokas and what they cover. Gopeshkumar was a very learned

> person ad

> > > > has brought many less known texts to light. When one is doing

> so much,

> > > > one can sometime make a mistake. That does not detract from his

> > > > "Paanditya"

> > > >

> > > > Chandrashekhar.

> > > >

> > > > Bharat Hindu Astrology wrote:

> > > > > Namaskaar Sri Chandrashekharji

> > > > >

> > > > > Thank you for the clarification. I suppose it turned out to

> be an

> > > > > erroneous

> > > > > translation of Sanskrit by Pt. Gopesh Kumar Ojha. He has

> repeated the

> > > > same

> > > > > words in another translation - I think it is Jatakalankaar.

> > > > >

> > > > > In any case, thank you for your email as it clarifies the

> issue.

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks and Regards

> > > > > Bharat

> > > > >

> > > > > On 5/16/06, Chandrashekhar <chandrashekhar46.> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Bharat,

> > > > > > The Sanskrit shlokas appear in Gopeshkumarji's translation

> also. I

> > > > think

> > > > > > Gopeshkumar, whom I respect much, perhaps misinterpreted

> the shloka.

> > > > The

> > > > > > shloka says "Lagnedorapi" (1st word shloka 4 Chapter 6)

> meaning the

> > > > > > Grahas should be in Kendra from Lagna and also should be in

> Kendra

> > > > from

> > > > > > Chandra. Had it been "Lagnedu vaa" or even "Lagnendu vaapi"

> it would

> > > > > > indicate that the grahas should be in Kendra from lagna

> or/and Moon.

> > > > > > "Lagnedorapi" appearing, is in context with earlier shloka

> 3 and

> > > > would

> > > > > > mean that when a Graha occupies Kendra in own or exaltation

> rasi,

> > > > > > Chandra should also occupy another Kendra. This would bring

> the

> > > graha

> > > > in

> > > > > > Kendra to both Lagna and Chandra. This is in line with basic

> > > > principles

> > > > > > of astrology as Chandra would get strength from occupying a

> > > Kendra. It

> > > > > > is said that strength of Chandra is the seed of strength of

> all

> > > > grahas.

> > > > > > So the graha will receive additional strength besides

> strength

> > > > obtained

> > > > > > from occupation of own/exaltation rasi. It is when this

> condition is

> > > > > > satisfied that Mantreshwar says that the Jataka will become

> a King

> > > > > > amongst Kings. This condition not being satisfied, he says

> that the

> > > > > > person will be a commander of army for Ruchaka yoga, a

> learned king

> > > > for

> > > > > > Bhadra yoga, beautiful and appreciated by the Sajjan (good

> > > people) and

> > > > > > partaker of good food in Hamsa yoga, valorous, strong,

> learned and

> > > > > > prosperous for Malavya yoga and powerful, leader of a city

> or a

> > > king,

> > > > > > praised by all but not having good behavior in fact and so

> on for

> > > > Shasha

> > > > > > yoga.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I trust this clarifies the matter.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Chandrashekhar.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Bharat Hindu Astrology wrote:

> > > > > > > Namaskaar Sri Chandrashekharji

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > The phaldeepika I possess does not have Sanskrit

> Translation,

> > > just a

> > > > > > > commentary of Pt. Gopesh Kumar Ojha in Hindi. Can you

> guide me

> > > to a

> > > > > > > translation of Phaldeepika?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > The reason I ask is, because Pt. Ojha on Page 111 on his

> > > translation

> > > > > > > writes

> > > > > > > this in hindi and I translate "That one must keep it in

> mind that

> > > > > > > Mantreshawar Maharaj has said that if the 5 grahas are in

> the

> > > Kendra

> > > > > > from

> > > > > > > Moon in Swarashi or Uccharashi, then it is considered as

> similar

> > > > > to yoga

> > > > > > > from lagna".

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I wonder where and which sholka has Mantreshwar Maharaj

> said so.

> > > > Till

> > > > > > > date,

> > > > > > > I have not used the usage of Mahapurusha Yogas from Moon,

> but

> > > would

> > > > > > > like to

> > > > > > > find out if it has been said by the classical texts.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Thanks and Regards

> > > > > > > Bharat

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > On 5/14/06, Chandrashekhar <chandrashekhar46> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear David,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Lagna and Moon in strength may not necessarily mean

> that the

> > > > > yogas are

> > > > > > > > to be read from Moon. It would mean Moon with Paksha

> bala and

> > > > > Lagna in

> > > > > > > > strength, the yoga causing graha being with strength

> and not

> > > > > blemished

> > > > > > > > by association of other grahas, especially malefics.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > By the way, Phaladeepika does not say that the yogas

> are to be

> > > > seen

> > > > > > with

> > > > > > > > respect to Moon.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Chandrashekhar.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > David Andrews wrote:

> > > > > > > > > Dear Shri Sunil,

> > > > > > > > > I felt that you were wrong in stating that the

> MahaPrush

> > > Yoga

> > > > > > could

> > > > > > > > > originate either from the Lagna or the Moon. I was

> under the

> > > > > > > > > impression that it should originate from lagna.

> Thanks for

> > > > > insisting

> > > > > > > > > that it could originate either from the Lagna or the

> Moon.

> > > > > > > > > I looked up my copy of Phala deepika translated by

> G. S.

> > > > Kapoor.

> > > > > > In

> > > > > > > > > Chapter 6 (page 62) where we read:

> > > > > > > > > "These five yogas have been named as Pancha

> Mahapurusha

> > > Yogas.

> > > > > > > > > Jataka Parijata has defined these Yogas as under:-

> > > > > > > > > According as Mars, Mercury, Jupiter, Venus or

> Saturn

> > > > > possessing

> > > > > > > > > the greatest strength and occupying a kendra is in

> > > Moolatrikona,

> > > > > > > > > Swakshetra or Swochcha, the resulting Rajayogas will

> be named

> > > > > > Ruchaka,

> > > > > > > > > Bhadra, Hamsa, Malavya and Sasa the beautiful."

> > > > > > > > > According to Saravali, "Venus, Mars, Saturn,

> Jupiter and

> > > > > Mercury

> > > > > > > > > remaining in their respective own houses or

> exaltation signs,

> > > > > > > > > identical with kendra cause Malavya, Ruchuka, Sasa,

> Hamsa and

> > > > > Bhadra

> > > > > > > > > Yogas respectively."

> > > > > > > > > But it is imperative that Yogas will the promised

> effects

> > > > only

> > > > > > when

> > > > > > > > > the Lagna or Moon and Yoga forming planets are

> without

> > > blemish.

> > > > In

> > > > > > > > > other words they are vested with strength and not

> associated

> > > > > with or

> > > > > > > > > in conjuction with malefics, are not combust and not

> placed

> > > > > between

> > > > > > > > > malefics.

> > > > > > > > > The book contains charts of Stalin - with planetary

> > > formations

> > > > > > > > > making up Ruchaka and Malavya yogas.

> > > > > > > > > Dr. Radha Krishnan - Bhadra Yoga

> > > > > > > > > Motilal Nehru - Hamsa Yoga

> > > > > > > > > Jawarlal Nehru - Malavya Yoga

> > > > > > > > > Sardar Patel - Sasa and Ruchuka Yogas.

> > > > > > > > >

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