Is perfection, infallibility possible? (for Ranji, Bharat and all)

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Namaste Ranji, Bharat and all:

 

The moksha theory does not necessarily preclude the concept of heaven

or hell. Moksha means liberation or emancipation from the attachment

to matter during this lifetime, aside from the traditional view of

the cycle of rebirth. In essence, we are reborn each day.

 

The attachment to matter is an inertia that drives humans to seek

pleasures, riches, power and recognition. As the rishis, modern and

old, have stated, humans are already physically equipped to cognize

the absolute or the creative intelligence that directs the evolution

and maintenance of Nature.

 

As David Frawley stated in one of his books, the receptive mind is

the matrix for understanding the dynamics of creation. It is that

mind that recognizes there is a spirit that forms matter into what we

see as Nature. It is that mind whom the "gods seek".

 

At the same time, the receptive mind is that mind which is able to

recognize the human tendency to be attached to the created rather

than the creator. It is that mind that is able to empty its thoughts

to be open and be infused with divine bliss. In other words, an open

mind makes the world magical.

 

There is no doubt that humans have developed their intelligence to

discover the secrets of nature to be able to invent the television,

the computers and ipods. However, these new discoveries and

inventions do not necessarily promote moksha. Typically, these

inventions do not allow the mind to be receptive to the creative

intelligence in Nature. As such, these inventions only further our

attachment to matter, or ignorance of the human capability.

 

With this current path, the mind will be continue to be bondage to

the limitations of matter. Every day will be a cycle of seeking for

the illusions of pleasures, wealth, and power. Thus, moksha is not

attained in this lifetime or after.

 

Regards,

 

John R.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

valist, "Bharat Hindu Astrology"

<hinduastrology wrote:

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> Namaskaar Ranji

>

> Anything that is said, whether it is a sinner theory or moksha

theory - it

> has to be complete and verifiable. The problem with sinner theory

is that

> requires the creation of heaven and hell. Heaven and Hell are said

to be

> places that one can visit only after one's death. By virtue of the

same,

> this theory becomes unverifiable and therefore, a blind belief.

>

> Moksha theory says that one can achieve freedom right here, right

now. One

> janma is enough provided you ready yourself for it. If you fail

this time,

> another janma will be provided. But whenever you realize the

freedom, you

> shall verify it within the scope of life. You will not die and earn

Moksha.

> This sounds like a verifiable thing.

>

> When one reads about the lives of Sri Ramakrishna Paramhansa, Swami

> Vivekananda, Sri Adi Sankara, Bhagwan Ramana Maharishi, and many

others

> before and after them, one can be atleast have faith in the Moksha

theory.

> It is a good start. Upon questioning it in all its teachings, one

would get

> to know if it is plausible or not.

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> Hope this was helpful.

>

> Thanks and Regards

> Bharat

>

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> On 5/17/06, ranjiaiyer <ranjiaiyer wrote:

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> > Dear List,

> > Quoting my mother again. She used to say that just the fact we are

> > born - as humans - Manushya janma - precludes us from knowing the

> > ultimate perfection - the Almighty. We are simply not equipped or

> > preprogrammed. And so even the Gurus fail us - this failure is

not so

> > much on the Gurus' part as much its on our receptivity.This goes

back

> > to what Das,Ashutosh have said that a jataka is essentially

a 'papa

> > jataka '- a sinner ( for want of a better word) and many

lifetimes are

> > needed to learn the requisite lessons and ascend the ladder of

Moksha.

> > Regards.

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