Guest guest Posted May 20, 2006 Report Share Posted May 20, 2006 There is no need for anyone to start reforming the country or nation before reforming himself. Each man's first duty is to realize his True Nature. If after doing this he feels like reforming the country or nation, by all means let him take up such reform. Swami Ram Tirtha advertised: "We want Reformers - but reformers who will reform themselves first." No two persons in the world can be alike or act alike. External differences are bound to persist, however hard we may try to eliminate them. The only solution is for each man to realize his True Nature. .... Give up regarding yourself as this despicable body and realize your Real Nature, which is one of Eternal Bliss. Seeking to know thyself while still anxious about the welfare of the body, is like attempting to cross a stream with the aid of a crocodile for a raft. Not desiring the non-Self is dispassion (vairagya). Inhering in the Self is Jnana. Both are the same. (The above are the last extracts from "Gems from Bhagavan" selected by A. Devaraja Mudaliar. A complete copy of this book can be downloaded free from: Terms of Service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 2006 Report Share Posted May 23, 2006 Thank you for this, Peter. It is a section which has been of particular focus to our study group, particularly regarding the possible spin which may be seen in "As far as possible, do not get antangled in the affairs of others". The first text for this can be seen in "Who Am I?" section §14. When Bhagavan came to re-writing the Q & A into the essay format, there are some interesting phrases.. It is the penultimate paragraph in the essay version. Allow me to show the Tamil text for the part of the para which reflects the Mudaliar piece quoted, with the English equivalents written directly underneath. For members who are unaccustomed to our system, who read the line across form left to right, taking in the Tamil and the corresponding English phrases at the same time. viruppu veruppukaL iran>dum veRukkat takkana. pirapañsa vishayangkaLil Loves-and-hatreds, the two to renounce/dislike is appropriate. The world with-its-things atikamaay manattai vidak. kuudaatu saattiyamaana, varaiyil anniyar too much the mind (obj) to permit one should not. Attainment up-until-the-time-of others' kaariyattil piraveesikkak kuudaatu. piRarukku oruvan concerns-with an entrance To others one man should not be made should not be commenced koduppatu tanakkee koduttuk koLLukiRaan. giving to himself indeed. having given he is receiving (with the hand) iv un>maiyai (y)aRiNtaal evaNtaan kodaat' ozhivaan? This truth (obj) if one knows which man indeed not giving will remain? We could translate this: "It is fitting to renounce the two [opposites] of love-and-hatred; and one should not allow the world with all its things to enter the mind. Up until the time of attainment, one should not concern oneself with other people's business. If a man gives everything to 'others' , he is really only giving (and receiving) for himself. If this truth be known, will anyone remain who does not give?" anbudan John Siva-Siva - Peter RamanaMaharshi Friday, May 19, 2006 9:24 AM [RamanaMaharshi] Gem's from Bhagavan: Miscellaneous Peter Quoted: Avoid desire and aversion. Do not engage the mind much in the affairs of the world. As far as possible do not get in entangled in the affairs of others. Giving to others is really giving to oneself. If one knows this truth, would one ever remain without giving? (from "Gems from Bhagavan", selected by A. Devaraja Mudaliar) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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