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Dravida (das) ACBSP (San Diego - USA)

05-Feb-00 05:24 -0800

Mahat-tattva (das) (Los Angeles, CA - USA) [372]

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Haribol

 

PAMHO. All glories to Srila Prabhupada.

 

Here's the resolution: If you (as a male devotee) want to be a serious

devotee, then you have to be either a truly renounced brahamacari or

sannyasi, or a responsible grhastha (which often includes at some point

vanaprastha). Otherwise you are outcaste. As it is said, the path is a

razor's edge.

 

ys

dd

 

At 09:52 AM 02/04/2000 -0800, you wrote:

>[Text 2987492 from COM]

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>Hare Krishna, PAMHO, AGTSP!

>

>

>

>Here are the two quotes from the book "Second Chance".

>

>"Family responsibility is very great; therefore if a man feels he cannot

>accept the responsibility, he should remain a brahmacary, a celibate

>student."

>

>"All genuine goswamis are also vairagis, renunciants. But if one is unable

>to be a real vairagi, then he must become a grhastha (householder)."

>

>According to the first one, I am a perfect candidate for a lifelong

>brahmacari. But according to other one, I should become a grhasta.

>

>Can u kindly help me put those two together?

>

>

>

>

>y.s. Mahat-tattva das

>

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Exact reference i do not recall but if its useful i do remember the

context -

 

Lord Caitanya was asked by one of His dear associates what the symptom was

of one who is sincere on the path of bhakti, and He responded that the first

symptom is 'asat sanga tyaagaat' - abandoning the association of the

nondevotees.

 

can anyone confirm this? or is there another reference closer to the mark?

 

 

 

Ramesvara.HKS (AT) pamho (DOT) net [Ramesvara.HKS (AT) pamho (DOT) net]

Wednesday, March 01, 2000 2:45 PM

(Krsna) Katha

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Haribol!

 

Can anyone tell me where that Cc verse is where Lord Caitanya says that a

devotee is one who avoids the association of materialists?

 

ys rvd

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asat-sanga-tyaga,--ei vaisnava-acara

`stri-sangi'--eka asadhu, `krsnabhakta' ara

SYNONYMS

asat-sanga-tyaga-rejection of the association of nondevotees; ei-this;

vaisnava-acara-the behavior of a Vaisnava; stri-sangi-who associates with

women for sense gratification; eka-one; asadhu-unsaintly person;

krsna-abhakta-one who is not a devotee of Lord Krsna; ara-another.

TRANSLATION

"A Vaisnava should always avoid the association of ordinary people. Common

people are very much materially attached, especially to women. Vaisnavas

should also avoid the company of those who are not devotees of Lord Krsna.

Madhya 22.88-90

TEXTS 88-90

TEXT

satyam saucam daya maunam

buddhir hrih srir yasah ksama

samo damo bhagas ceti

yat-sangad yati sanksayam

tesv asantesu mudhesu

khanditatmasv asadhusu

sangam na kuryac chocyesu

yosit-krida-mrgesu ca

na tathasya bhaven moho

bandhas canya-prasangatah

yosit-sangad yatha pumso

TRANSLATION

"`By association with worldly people, one becomes devoid of truthfulness,

cleanliness, mercy, gravity, spiritual intelligence, shyness, austerity,

fame, forgiveness, control of the mind, control of the senses, fortune and

all opportunities. One should not at any time associate with a coarse fool

who is bereft of the knowledge of self-realization and who is no more than a

toy animal in the hands of a woman. The illusion and bondage that accrue to

a man from attachment to any other object are not as complete as that

resulting from association with a woman or with men too much attached to

women.'

 

 

============ REF. Madhya 22.88-90

 

TEXT 339

SYNONYMS

sadhu-laksana-the symptoms of a devotee; sadhu-sanga-association with

devotees; sadhu-sevana-offering service to devotees; asat-sanga-tyaga-giving

up the company of nondevotees; sri-bhagavata-sravana-regularly hearing the

recitation of Srimad-Bhagavatam.

TRANSLATION

"You should describe the symptoms of a devotee, how to associate with

devotees, how to satisfy a devotee by rendering service, and how to give up

the association of nondevotees. You should also explain the value of

regularly hearing the recitation of Srimad-Bhagavatam.

Madhya 24.340

 

============ REF. Madhya 24.340

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Dear Radharadhya Prabhu,

 

Please accept my humble obeisances. All glories to Srila Prabhupada.

 

Thanks so much for the message. We would love to review your CD. Can

you please mail a courtesy review copy plus ordering information any

other media packet material (photos of the artists would be nice if

available) to:

 

Editor

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P.O. Box 238

Alachua, FL 32616, USA

 

Thanks again and we wish you all success in your service to Lord Krishna.

 

YS, Kunti dasi

 

 

 

>Dear Devotees!

>Please accept my humble obeisances! All glories to Srila Prabhupada!

>

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>

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>

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>

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>

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>

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>

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>invoking the Virat Purusha, the cosmic form of the Supreme.

>

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>- Bir Krishna das Goswami, GBC

>

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>spirit in a world burdened with material energy. Highly recommended - -

>Hari-Dhama Das PhD, hospice care / communications / writer

>

>Is it possible that you write something about the new CD in ISKCON world

>review and BTG?

>

>We are praying for your blessings that we can bring the holy names of the

>Lord and Vedic culture close to people's hearts and minds.Please send the

>letter on to whomever you think could be interested in the topic.

>

>Hoping this meets you well, I beg to remain

>your servant

>Radharadhya das

>

>

>PS: Counselling and training about Vasati, the science of space and sound,

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>6128 41098, e-mail: vedasan (AT) t-online (DOT) de, webpage: www.vedasan.de,

>CD-webpage: www.yantra108.de

 

 

 

Hare Krishna World

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P.O. Box 238

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904-462-5054 Fax: 904-462-5056

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> If you love something, set it free.

> If it comes back, it will always be yours.

> If it doesn't come back, it was never yours to begin with.

> But, if it just sits in your living room, messes up your stuff,

> eats your food, uses your telephone, takes your money,

> and doesn't appear to realize that you had set it free.......

> You either married it or gave birth to it.

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