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"Mahamantra (das) ACBSP (Vrindavan - IN)" wrote:

 

> > Is it true the other way around too. If one's Guru asks one not to get

> > married, and one gets married anyway. Any scriptural references? YHS Vpd

>

> h

 

Yes, devotees got married and had hard times - to a great degree because the

leadership of the society was heavily influenced by misogynist early disciples

of Srila Prabhupada. Time for the soicety to grow up a little and not apply

instructions meant for immature bramacaris to capable adults.

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Hare Krishna

PAMHO, AGTSP

Prabhuji, calling those disciples of Srila Prabhupada as "immature

brahmcharis" is bit too much. Srila Prabhupada did mention in his books

about the hardships and problems one might face if one gets married. Does

that mean he was only writing for some immature brahmcharis or for all of

us? Ofcourse, a good grihasta is far better than a bad brahmchari, but that

doesn't imply that everyone should get married or remain brahmchari. I

guess one's guru is in a better position to decide on that.

Just my $0.02 worth

YHS

VPd

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> "Mahamantra (das) ACBSP (Vrindavan - IN)" wrote:

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> > > Is it true the other way around too. If one's Guru asks one not to

> > > get married, and one gets married anyway. Any scriptural references?

> > > YHS Vpd

> >

> > h

>

> Yes, devotees got married and had hard times - to a great degree because

> the leadership of the society was heavily influenced by misogynist early

> disciples of Srila Prabhupada. Time for the soicety to grow up a little

> and not apply instructions meant for immature bramacaris to capable

> adults.

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At 01:07 PM 10/24/00 -0500, Vidura Priya (das) (Dallas TX - US) wrote:

> Ofcourse, a good grihasta is far better than a bad brahmchari,

 

According to Prabhupada, a good grhasta is as good as a good brahmacari (if

by "good" you mean "following")

 

>I guess one's guru is in a better position to decide on that.

 

Is that necessarily true? Do you mean that we need to wait for our gurus

to tell us if we should or should not get married? I thought at least

sannyasis (which is by far the most common asrama among ISKCON gurus)

shouldn't get too involved in householder issues. I know some ISKCON gurus

delegate that responsibility to senior grhastas.

 

Ys,

Madhusudani dasi

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On 24 Oct 2000, Madhusudani Radha wrote:

 

 

> Is that necessarily true? Do you mean that we need to wait for our gurus

> to tell us if we should or should not get married? I thought at least

> sannyasis (which is by far the most common asrama among ISKCON gurus)

> shouldn't get too involved in householder issues. I know some ISKCON gurus

> delegate that responsibility to senior grhastas.

 

Also I have heard, that Srila Prabhupada said if someone is *thinking* whether

he should get married *or* not then he should better get married.

 

I do not have a ready quote on that.

 

YHS

Bhadra Govinda Das.

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