cacao and chocolate.

[Guest guest]

Hare Krishna,

 

If I'm not mistaken,the principle ingredient in white chocolate is cocoa..

 

Well, apparently, carob is a substitute for chocolate....

 

your servant,

 

sakshi-gopal dasa

 

 

 

On 21 Jan 2000, Temple Budapest wrote:

 

> What about white chocolate?

> ys hn dd

[Guest guest]

> >Cocoa butter is a fatty substance obtained from the seeds of the cacao.

> >I guess this means that white chocolate fall in the same category as

> >ordinary chocolate.

>

> but, it tastes different from brown chocolate. are you sure prabhu because

> we use it in place of the 'normal' chocolate?

 

According to the explanation I read cocoa butter is added to white

chocolate. Cacao is thus involved, so it should fall in the category as

brown chocolate.

 

Ys, Tadiyasevadasa

[Guest guest]

Does anyone know for sure what the cafine content of cocoa butter is? This

seems to be the real question. A friend of mine just told me that something

like 80% of the caffine is in the butter which was surprisng considering

that there was a description of the pure chocolate being dark and slightly

bitter, indicating that (hopeing against hope) white chocki is somehow bona

fide. It would be nice to have some concrete facts not just theoretical

speculation...

ys hn dd

[Guest guest]

Since we are now perhaps more or less convinced that the white choc

sob sob is perhaps intoxicating, then bystanders like my self beg learned

members of this

conference for recipies

for carob cookies, delights or anything caroby

 

begging to remain your servant

Sravaniya dd

[Guest guest]

Hare Krishna.

 

·>Since we are now perhaps more or less convinced that the white choc

·>sob sob is perhaps intoxicating, then bystanders like my self beg learned

·>members of this

·>conference for recipies

·>for carob cookies, delights or anything caroby

·>

·>begging to remain your servant

·>Sravaniya dd

 

This is not the first time this discussion has taken place in this forum. A

conclusion which was reached some of those other times was that chocolate

consumption, while *mildy* intoxicating (very mildly) and not bona fide, is

not exactly a litmus test of one's Krsna consciousness. In point of fact, it

is probably not really all that important. A quick check of the folio brings

up exactly *one* hit on the word chocolate, and all Srila Prabhupada says,

in passing, is 'we don't eat chocolate.'

 

Try that same search on the phrase 'illicit sex' or 'meat eating' and you'll

get 10,000 hits with extremely unequivocal language from Prabhupada.

 

My conclusion: if you don't eat chocolate, don't start. You're not missing

much. If you do, and you're attached, then certainly you should offer it do

Krsna with love an devotion, and then take his remnants. If you can give it

up easily then that is probably good, but I wouldn't lose any sleep over it.

 

We've got more important things to worry about.

 

Hare Krishna --

 

your servant, Balarama Dasa

[Guest guest]

>Try that same search on the phrase 'illicit sex' or 'meat eating' and

you'll

>get 10,000 hits with extremely unequivocal language from Prabhupada.

>

>My conclusion: if you don't eat chocolate, don't start. You're not missing

>much. If you do, and you're attached, then certainly you should offer it do

>Krsna with love an devotion, and then take his remnants. If you can give it

>up easily then that is probably good, but I wouldn't lose any sleep over

it.

>

>We've got more important things to worry about.

 

Sorry, you misunderstood me, I wanted some recipies, have no doubts about

choc.

and , I totally agree with your statement, but sometimes we have to cater

for non devotees as well to attract them, and they love chocolate,

or at other times, we have to offer substitutes to aspiring devotees who say

"I can leave anything but chocolates". I tried baking carob cakes a

few times but it does not rise well. I am sure that someone could kindly

post something for prasadam distribution. I am also looking for muesli +

Carob. An Australian devotee knows how to make these superb carob cookies

but I lost her address.

Thanking wonderful carob cooks in advance,

your servant . sravaniya dd

[Guest guest]

> Since we are now perhaps more or less convinced that the white choc sob

> sob is perhaps intoxicating, then bystanders like my self beg learned

> members of this conference for recipies

> for carob cookies, delights or anything caroby

>

I have 3:

HOT FUDGE PUDDING CAKE:

1 cup flour 2 Tblsp melted butter

3/4 cup sugar 1 cup chopped nuts

2 Tblsp. carob 1 cup brown sugar

2 Tblsp baking pwdr. 1/4 cup carob

1/4 tsp salt 1 3/4 cup hot water

1/2 cup milk

Heat oven to 350°. Measure flour, sugar, 2 T. carob, bkng pwdr, + salt into

a bowl, blend in milk, butter and nuts. Pour into an ungreased square pan

(9x2x2 in.) Stir togather brn. sugar + 1/4 c. carob. Sprinkle over batter.

Pour HOT water over batter. BAke 45 mins. While warm spoon cake into bowls

and spoon sauce over each serving. Serve with whipped cream.

 

CAROB CRUNCH COOKIES:

4 oz. butter melted

2 tsp.carob flour

4 oz flour

1 tsp baking pwdr.

2 1/2 oz sugar

desicated coconut

 

Melt butter in a pan and stir in carob flour. Add remaining ing. and mix

togather. Press mixture into a tray. Bake @ 375° for 25 mins till set and

browned. cut while still hot and cool in the tray. Cover with carob icing.

 

CHOKI:

10 dkg butter

10-15 dkg sugar

1 dl water

 

Boil togather untill sugar is melted

then add:

 

20 dkg milk powder

2 Tblsp carob flour

 

Stir togather till the mixture sticks togather (not more than a few mins)

then spread on a tray and cool. This is also nice with almonds and almond

essence insted of carob.

[Guest guest]

> Since we are now perhaps more or less convinced that the white choc

> sob sob is perhaps intoxicating,

 

White chocolate is not intoxicating. The high sugar content is slightly

intoxicating if eaten in higher quantities and in addition strongly

suppresses the immune system, but this is the case with all sweets.

 

Like most industrial products w. chocolate is of very poor quality and thus

not really suitable for the deities. But it is NOT intoxicating from the

chemical/medical point of view. Take my word for this.

 

Ys Ud

[Guest guest]

Hare Krishna.

 

·>Does anyone know for sure what the cafine content of cocoa butter is?

 

I couldn't say exactly what the content was but I *can* say this: make a

little experiment -- go eat the biggest chocolate bar you can find, and see

what the result is. Then go drink a cup of coffee and see what the result is

from *that.*

 

The chocolate won't do much at all -- in fact, as Ugresa Prabhu points out

re white chocolate, the main effect from it is from all the sugar. But the

cup of coffee will give you the trembling shakes for 36 hours. You won't

sleep, you won't eat, you'll have to go wash the go-down with a toothbrush

to work it off. From *one* cup of coffee.

 

Chocolate may contain caffeine, but if the quantity is so small that there

is no effect from it, then how important is it? I think the real issue with

chocolate is the same as with other commercial products like ice cream: the

sugar content and the fact that it is a product of Karmi factories.

 

Common sense -- you can't live without it.

 

Hare Krishna --

 

your servant, Balarama Dasa