Guest guest Posted January 30, 2000 Report Share Posted January 30, 2000 In a message dated 1/23/00 1:36:15 PM Eastern Standard Time, Ekanath.HKS (AT) bbt (DOT) se writes: << I am neither endorsing nor contending this author's views. I don't know the topic well enough to do that. My posts in this thread are of a purely informative nature. >> Haribol We hear of various tantra-s such as Krishna-yamala-tantra in Laghu bhagavatamrta. So there seem to be other categories of bonafide tantra other than Pancaratra. I don't think the known Pancaratras go into Krishna-lila. At best one of them says that Narayana is an expansion of a two handed form. ys Gerald Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2000 Report Share Posted January 30, 2000 On 02 Jan 2000, Vrajendra Kumara wrote: > Can anybody define the position of Brahma-samhita amongst vedic scriptures? This is something I have been getting devotees to do for years... > Being a samhita does it belong to the original Vedas (Sruti)? If so who can > doubt the superiority of Bhakti over other processes and the supreme > position of Krsna? If it is not part of original Vedas than what is it's > position? How do we prove it's authentity? > Your servant, Vrajendra Kumara das Brahma-samhita is not a samhita in the same sense as the Rig, Yajur, Atharva, and Saama Veda Samhitas. Vedas are divided into Samhita, Braahmana, Aranyaka, and Upanishads. Then there are other literatures called as "samhitas" which are actually pancharaatric or some other smriti. Brahma-samhita is definitely not shruti, or at least it is not commonly accepted as such. This of course brings to mind what its authority is. Why shouldn't people (even Vaishnavas from other sampradaayas) challenge us in regard to its authority? No one outside our sampradaaya accepts it as scripture, so what use is it for us to quote it as evidence when we are the only ones who accept it anyway? We can argue that Chaitanya Mahaaprabhu accepted it, and therefore others should too since He is the Supreme Lord. But if it were really so easy to convince others of Mahaaprabhu's divinity, then why aren't all Vaishnavas already accepting it? I contend that this, too, is going to be difficult. So far, Brahma-samhita IMHO seems useful only as a commentary on the Bhaagavatam, or in other words as something which summarizes some of the teachings mentioned in the Bhaagavatam. We can go on accepting it as Lord Brahmaa's words, but since no one else does, I would recommend against using it for preaching. When it comes to preaching, I would rather go to the Bhaagavatam for my pramaanas. Although if I wanted a quick understanding of the relationship between Krishna and other devatas, I would go to the Brahma-samhita. Just my $00.02.... - K Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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