What is VASUDEVA KUTUMBAKAM?

[Guest guest]

Prabhupada: So if there is dehantara-prapti, then where is your so-called

nationalism, socialism? They do not understand. Suppose if you are Indian today

and dehantara-prapti, you become something else, then where is your

nationalism? Boliye. For twenty years or, say, fifty years nationalism... When

you become young man, thirty-forty years, then you begin. Suppose you live for

hundred years. So fifty years' nationalism. Then if by chance you become a dog?

(Hindi)

Mr. Dwivedi: (Hindi) ...vasudeva-kutumbakam...

Prabhupada: Vasudeva-kutumbakam all right because Krsna says,

sarva-yonisu kaunteya

murtayah sambhavanti yah

tasam brahma mahad-yonir

aham bija-pradah pita

[bg. 14.4]

If you understand Krsna, then kutumbakam. If you don't understand your father,

where is kutumbaka? (Hindi) Kitna (Hindi) ...foolish idea. You do not recognize

the father, and crying for brother. If you understand Krsna, then

vasudeva-kutumbakam. If you do not understand, it is foolishness. Brahma-bhutah

prasannatma na socati na kanksati [bg. 18.54]. If you can understand your

position as part and parcel of Krsna, Param Brahma... Krsna... Param brahma

param dhama pavitram paramam bhavan [bg. 10.12]. Everything in the

Bhagavad-gita... If you understand that "I am part and parcel of Param Brahma.

Aham brahmasmi. I am also Brahman," that is brahma-bhuta. Prasannatma na

socati..., samah sarvesu bhutesu. Then you can claim this vasudeva... If you do

not understand Krsna, it is all nonsense, simply slogan. Where is kutumbaka?

Then where is nationalism? I have gone to preach in the foreign

countries-really on kutumbakam, not that "I am Indian. He is American. He is

Englishman." Then there is no question of kutumbakam. And people are fighting

on this plane. This vasudeva-kutumbakam... Then why you asked the Englishmen to

go away, quit India? What do you say?

Mr. Dwivedi: Narrow nationalism.

Prabhupada: Eh?

Mr. Dwivedi: Narrow nationalism.

Prabhupada: If you... If you think kutumbakam. Suppose some kutumba has come to

your house. You ask him, "Go out"? This is our system. Grhe satrum api praptam.

This is Indian culture. When you receive somebody at your home, even if he's

your enemy-grhe satrum api praptam-you should treat with him in such a way that

he'll forget that he's your enemy. Visvastam akutobhayam. That was India's

culture. Bhima went to Jarasandha to fight. Whole day it was fight. It was

ksatriya's fight. Unless one is dead, the fight will continue. So Bhima and

Jarasandha were equally powerful, so no decision. But still, he was guest at

Jarasandha's house. At night they were eating together, talking together. This

is India's culture. They forgot. Arjuna went to see in the battlefield to

Duryodhana. And Duryodhana immediately said, "Come here, my brother. You have

come. What do you want? How can I help you? You want your kingdom without

fight? I can give you." He said, "No, no, that is not my business." This is

ksatriya. He... He thought that "He has come to beg.No, no, that already...

That we shall decide in the battlefield." This is ksatriya. But when he's at my

place, I offer, "All right, if you want without fight, you can take." This

is... They... This is India's culture. Ei sab mahabharata hai, "History of

Greater India."

 

Second Meeting with Mr. Dwivedi, April 24, 1977, Bombay