Guest guest Posted December 17, 2000 Report Share Posted December 17, 2000 Hare Krsna.PAMHO.AGTSP.AGTGM. Hrdayananda:What is the position of a person who takes to devotional service with the idea of liberation? Prabhupada:That is not pure bhakti.You can take devotional service with any idea.That will be fulfilled.But anyone who wants liberation by devotional service,he is not a pure devotee.That is called Janana-misra-bhakti,means bhakti adulterated with jnana.Real bhakti,as I have explained,anyabhilasita-sunyam jnana-karmadi-anavrtam means the karmis,they want promotion in the heavenly planets,ane the jnanis,they want to become one with the Supreme or liberation,so it should be uncovered by the result of jnana and karma and fully devoide of any other desire.That is bhakti.So those who are bhaktas and desiring after liberation,they are not pure bhaktas.Because why a devotee shall aspire after liberation?AS soon as [he is]a bhakta,he is already liberated.That is stated in Bhagavadgita,mam ca yo 'vyabhicarena bhakti-yogena sevate,sa gunan samatityatan brahma-bhuyaya kalpate:"He,anyone,who is engaged in pure devotional service,he is transcendental to all three qualities of the material world,and he is situated in the Brahman platform."Liberation means to be situated on the Brahman platform.So for a bhakta,the liberation is already there.Srila Bilvamangala Thakurahas said,mukthi mukulitanjalih sevate 'sman:"We are devotees,so mukti,liberation,is standing on my door with folded hands,'What can I do for you?'"So why a pure bhakta should desire after liberation?For a pure bhakta,the liberation is standing on the door as maid servant.So a devotee is not aspirous of liberation.(break) Hrdayananda:Is it possible to achieve liberation with other religious.... Prabhupada:There is no other religion except KC.All cheating religion.Dharmah projjhita-kaitavah:"All cheating type of religion is rejected,kicked out." Hrdayananda:Until you have arrived here,there was no possibility of liberation for humanity? Prabhupada:That you can judge.(laughter)if I say, it will be self advertisement.But you are intelligent.You can judge.But I have not brought something invented by me.I have brought the Bhagavatamand Bhagavad-gita.That is all. Man:How can people in general recognize when a devotee is pure? Prabhupada:I have already described.He has no material desire,except to serve Krsna,or God.That is devotee.That is pure devotee.(Bhag.lecture,Feb.24th 1975 Caracas) All glories to Srila Prabhupada.All glories to Guru Maharaja. YHS Ramananda Gaura Das Krsna Premavati dd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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