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> In order for there to be a "next time," there has to have been a "first

time."

> So prabhu, would you be so kind as to tell us who has said that women *can't*

> be temple presidents?

 

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> Shyamasundara (das) ACBSP (Florida Vedic College - USA)

> 02-Oct-98 06:50 +0000

> GHQ [47]

> More strategy

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> Dear Maharajas and Prabhus,

>

> Please except my humble obeisances. All glories to Srila Prabhupada.

>

> Continuing on with Maharajas ideas about strategy and tactics:

>

> What exactly are our ultimate objectives? These objectives may go beyond

> the next GBC meeting. Here is a list of some suggested objectives:

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> 1) No women in leadership positions, this means in GBC, temple

> presidents, the GBC secretaries, ISKCON officers or spokespersons (such as

> in ISKCON communications which is heavily dominated by feminists).

>

 

Plus, just within the last month on these conferences the point was made quite

strenuously. Have you just joined this discussion recently?

 

So his current political campaign against Mothers Dhanyakunda and Madhusudhani

is

simply a continuation of his, and others, stated goal. For you to deny these

things have been stated is almost incredulous.

 

That GHQers would campaign so strongly against something, and then when shown

evidence that Srila Prabhupada said they could be TPs, then deny the

statements

have been made, that is amazing to me. Well, as Canakya Paundit said, never

trust a politician.

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> That GHQers would campaign so strongly against something, and then when

> shown evidence that Srila Prabhupada said they could be TPs, then deny

> the statements

> have been made, that is amazing to me. Well, as Canakya Paundit said,

> never trust a politician.

 

"Oh my gosh!" :-)

 

Mr. "Gosh"...

 

Would you kindly present us with just one, yes, "1" instance where Srila

Prabhupada appointed a woman as a TP or GBC?

 

Thank you very much!

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On 1 Jan 2000, Basu Ghosh wrote:

 

 

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> Would you kindly present us with just one, yes, "1" instance where Srila

Prabhupada appointed a woman as a TP or GBC?

>

> Thank you very much!

 

 

 

I hate to be clueless, but what difference does this make? When I think of

Srila Prabhupada instructions to his followers, obsessing on women is not the

first issue that comes to mind, what to speak of relentlessly lobbying in the

political arena. Almost sounds anti-Vedic.

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On 01 Jan 2000, Madhava Gosh wrote:

 

> > 1) No women in leadership positions, this means in GBC, temple

> > presidents, the GBC secretaries, ISKCON officers or spokespersons (such as

> > in ISKCON communications which is heavily dominated by feminists).

> >

 

"Close but no seegar," prabhu. Those were the suggestions of one member of a

COM conference. Please find something where someone says women "can't" be

temple presidents, which was your direct claim.

 

> Plus, just within the last month on these conferences the point was made

quite

> strenuously.

 

By whom? Prove it, please.

 

> So his current political campaign against Mothers Dhanyakunda and

Madhusudhani

> is

> simply a continuation of his, and others, stated goal. For you to deny

these

> things have been stated is almost incredulous.

 

For you to live in the illusion that there is some kind of "GHQ" conspiracy is

the real illusion. Are you living in the past, prabhu? The GHQ conference was

closed over a year ago. If you wabnt to complain about Shyamasundara Prabhu,

that's your right, but what does it have tod owith the topics of these

conferences, I wonder?

 

> That GHQers would campaign so strongly against something, and then when

shown

> evidence that Srila Prabhupada said they could be TPs, then deny the

> statements

> have been made, that is amazing to me.

 

Prabhu, I humbly submit that if you would just get your facts straight, then

you wouldn't have to be so amazed. I humbly submit that you assume too much

and draw hasty conclusions. It's the phenomenon of "making a mountain out of a

mole hill," actually. For example, this idea that "the "GHQers would campaign

so strongly against something." What does it mean?

How many times will someone have to deconstruct such statements, and why?

How do such statements facilitate topics of varnasrama development?

 

>Well, as Canakya Paundit said, never trust a politician.

 

Well, I don't :)

 

--gkd

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On 01 Jan 2000, Sthita-dhi-muni Dasa wrote:

 

> I hate to be clueless, but what difference does this make?

 

Now that's an interesting question, indeed: "What difference does it make? Are

you thereby implying that it makes little or no difference? And to whom or

what? To ISKCON? To you? To the king of Nepal? In the context of discussions

on varnasrama development, dharma, and so forth, what is the significant value

of that question?

 

>When I think of Srila Prabhupada instructions to his followers, >obsessing on

women...

 

And perhaps you should verify your tele-cyberpsychoalyses with Dr. Ekstrand

before making such public pronouncements? :)

 

--gkd

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