Thread 4: A prayer.

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Anantarupa Prabhu wrote:

 

>Yes but without our effort, Krishna will also not give results. To a

>considerable extent, results *are* up to our own effort and desire.

>Prabhupada confirmed it by repeatedly quoting: Na hi suptasya simhasya

>pravishanti mukhe mriga. If the lion is sleeping, he cannot expect the deer

>to walk into his mouth. Even the mighty lion has to make an effort and

>chase them. Without effort no result.

 

Yes. Also there is time factor. And Srila Prabhupada said, when a woman

gets married she cannot immediately get a child. She has to wait. Time is

required to get the fruit. She has to serve her husband, and has to be

blessed by him, carry the baby in the womb for 10 months and then only she

will get the fruit. But sometimes inspite of all the efforts one may not be

blessed by a child due to either her past karma, or due to krishna's direct

will, for some higher purpose.

 

When the farmer cultivates land, to get a good crop, the combination of good

seeds, good rains (nature), and his own effort (tilling of land) are

required. Any one is not there then you will not get the fruit.

 

>Yes we should not be attached to results. We should perform our duty

>without attachment but the Vedas also say phalena pariciyate. You judge by

>the results.

 

phalena pariciyate. In *some* cases one may not be able to see the phala

with in one's life time. The point is devotee puts his efforts and leaves

the rest to Krishna.

 

In school, I had heard this story. An oldman in his nineties was planting

mango seeds and watering them daily and taking care of the plants. When the

emperor came that way, he asked the old man, why he was taking so much

trouble to grow the mango trees on either side of the road when, he himself

being so old may wither away any time and he may not be able to see the

fruits in his life time. He said, "I am not putting this effort for my own

benefit. But for the benefit of future generations". If an oldman at the

level of fruitive activities was thinking so broadly, then what to speak of

Vaishnavas and Vaishnava communities.

 

That is why in Vaishnava communities, the bench mark is efforts and not

results.

 

>If a project or procedure simply brings forth negative or painful results,

>it is time to make an effort to change the procedure.

 

Yes. It is time to find the *cause* of failure of each project we are

having and fix each problem by the blessings of Guru and krishna. And for

each project we have to first make a thorough analysis why it has failed.

Not sentimentally say sack the management/worker. It has to be proved that

the cause of failure is management/worker, or anything else.

 

Usually in many businesses and corporations which fail, the problems

reported are *symptomatic*. As long as we describe the problems

symptomatically we cannot get the required results. it is reported one of

the most symptomatic problem reported in failing businesses around the world

is 'bad management team' or 'bad employees'. And in succesful corporations

they define the problems scientifically by asking questions

'why,what,who,when,where,how,how many' and not blaming the management or the

employees. we have to define the problem correctly. That is the first step

in problem solving.

 

What is happening in some quarters of our society is they have concluded

that the cause of failure is GBC management. *It may be/may not be*. As a

member of this society I will ask for the proof how they arrived with this

conclusion, that GBC structure or GBC itself is the cause of all our

problems. In that effort only I asked them to define the problem. They do

not have an answer.

 

Your humble servant,

Bhadra Govinda Das.