Guest guest Posted September 17, 2000 Report Share Posted September 17, 2000 > Haven't you read all the quotes where Srila Prabhupada says that a society > without varnasrama will produce nothing but chaos? Haven't you been > reading the flood of texts on the importance of varnasrama over the years > supplied by Janesvara Prabhu? Why did Srila Prabhupada say that > establishing varnasrama was FIFTY PER CENT of his mission? "The first time, several devotees were with Srila Prabhupada. We knew that his health was getting weaker. He was talking to the devotees about his imminent departure. 'I have no lamentation,' Prabhupada said. He paused for a few seconds, and then he said, 'No, I have one lamentation.' A devotee asked, 'Because you have not finished translating the Srimad Bhagavatam?' Prabhupada replied, 'No, that I have not established varnasrama.' "On the next occasion, some time later, I was with Srila Prabhupada in his room when he made the statement, 'Fifty percent of my work is not complete because I have not established varnasrama.'" Personally, it is my understanding and conviction that because Srila Prabhupada said he finished fifty percent of his mission and left fifty percent uncompleted (varnasrama) the remaining fifty percent becomes 100% of our mission. We must fulfill that which our Guru Maharaja wanted to complete. What higher mission can we have? "Society cannot depend on sudras. Nor can you depend on the brahmanas. To fulfill the necessities of your body, there must be a brain, arms, a stomach, and legs. The legs, the brain, and the arms are all required for cooperation to fulfill the mission of the whole body. So in any society you can see that unless there are these divisions, there will be chaos. IT WILL NOT WORK PROPERLY. IT WILL BE MAYA AND THERE WILL BE DISTURBANCES." SSR pg 198 "The mission of life is to go back home, back to Godhead. To fulfill this mission, the system of varna and asrama must be followed. When the system is followed rigidly and consciously it fulfills this missions of life. When it is followed indirectly, without guidance of superior order, then it simply creates a disturbing condition in human society, and there is no peace and prosperity." KB 3.11 daivi-varnasrama' mission by Srila Bhaktivinoda Thakura to Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati: "Therefore they attack the pure Vaishnavas, saying, 'They have taken birth in low-class families because of their sins.' Thus they commit offenses. The solution to the problem is to establish the order of daiva-varnasrama-dharma - something you have started doing; you should know that to be the real service to the Vaishnavas. Because pure devotional conclusions are not being preached, all kinds of superstitions and bad concepts are being called devotion by such pseudo-sampradayas as sahajiya and atibari. Please always crush these anti-devotional concepts by preaching pure devotional conclusions and by setting an EXAMPLE through your personal conduct." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2000 Report Share Posted September 17, 2000 Hare Krishna, This text cannot be posted to the GBC Restructure conference at this time because it does not address the subject of Thread #6 (proposals on divisions of responsibility). Please refer to text 3527870 for a detailed explanation. However, I took the liberty of posting it to the new GBC Unmoderated conference, a free-forum for unrestricted discussion of related issues. If you choose to reply to the text, please subtract GBC Restructure as a receiver. Your servant, Sri Rama das Conference Moderator | |Janesvara.ACBSP (AT) pamho (DOT) net [Janesvara.ACBSP (AT) pamho (DOT) net] |Sunday, September 17, 2000 7:57 AM |Srirama (das) ACBSP |Cc: Prabhupada Disciples; Varnasrama development; Basu Ghosh (das) ACBSP |(Baroda - IN) |Varnasrama-dharma = 100% of OUR mission. | | |> Haven't you read all the quotes where Srila Prabhupada says that |a society |> without varnasrama will produce nothing but chaos? Haven't you been |> reading the flood of texts on the importance of varnasrama over the years |> supplied by Janesvara Prabhu? Why did Srila Prabhupada say that |> establishing varnasrama was FIFTY PER CENT of his mission? | |"The first time, several devotees were with Srila Prabhupada. We knew |that his health was getting weaker. He was talking to the devotees about |his imminent departure. 'I have no lamentation,' Prabhupada said. He |paused for a few seconds, and then he said, 'No, I have one |lamentation.' A devotee asked, 'Because you have not finished |translating the Srimad Bhagavatam?' Prabhupada replied, 'No, that I have |not established varnasrama.' | |"On the next occasion, some time later, I was with Srila Prabhupada in |his room when he made the statement, 'Fifty percent of my work is not |complete because I have not established varnasrama.'" | | |Personally, it is my understanding and conviction that because Srila |Prabhupada said he finished fifty percent of his mission and left fifty |percent uncompleted (varnasrama) the remaining fifty percent |becomes 100% of |our mission. We must fulfill that which our Guru Maharaja wanted to |complete. What higher mission can we have? | |"Society cannot depend on sudras. Nor can you depend on the brahmanas. To |fulfill the necessities of your body, there must be a brain, arms, a |stomach, and legs. The legs, the brain, and the arms are all required for |cooperation to fulfill the mission of the whole body. So in any society you |can see that unless there are these divisions, there will be chaos. IT WILL |NOT WORK PROPERLY. IT WILL BE MAYA AND THERE WILL BE DISTURBANCES." SSR pg |198 | | |"The mission of life is to go back home, back to Godhead. To fulfill this |mission, the system of varna and asrama must be followed. When the |system is |followed rigidly and consciously it fulfills this missions of life. When it |is followed indirectly, without guidance of superior order, then it simply |creates a disturbing condition in human society, and there is no peace and |prosperity." KB 3.11 | |daivi-varnasrama' mission by Srila Bhaktivinoda Thakura to Srila |Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati: |"Therefore they attack the pure Vaishnavas, saying, 'They have taken birth |in low-class families because of their sins.' Thus they commit |offenses. The |solution to the problem is to establish the order of |daiva-varnasrama-dharma |- something you have started doing; you should know that to be the real |service to the Vaishnavas. Because pure devotional conclusions are |not being |preached, all kinds of superstitions and bad concepts are being called |devotion by such pseudo-sampradayas as sahajiya and atibari. Please always |crush these anti-devotional concepts by preaching pure devotional |conclusions and by setting an EXAMPLE through your personal conduct." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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