Guest guest Posted May 21, 2006 Report Share Posted May 21, 2006 Dear sri vaishNava perunthagaiyeer, On the question of seethaa being treated as jeevaathmaa and hanumaan assuming the role of achaarya while removing her `sOkham' of separation, I had a discussion with another knowledgeable scholar here. He confirmed that such a position is acceptable to sri vaishNavaas of raamaanuja sampradhaayam – viz. seethaa being a woman in this world, [born here] she has no swaathanthriyam [even though she is the periya piraatti originally] and as such she expects and has to rely on somebody like hanumaan, to take the role of an aachaarya, to help her in her `sOkham' removal. Even in the nether world she can only recommend to the lord and she can act only through the lord sriman naaraayaNan. When she has come as seethaa and while sitting in asOkha vanam, she is in similar position of jeevaathma awaiting the arrival of aachaarya to plead to the lord for the liberation. Sree vaalmeeki in his srimadh raamaayaNam does not include even in an inclined manner such a theory. In his excellent tamil version, kamban also does not indicate any such interpretations in the uruk kaattup padalam even though he has varied with vaalmeeki in few places while composing his version of raamaayaNam. May be these are all later interpretations by the commentators like govindaraja and other aachaaryaas. I do not have any authentic information on sri mudaliyaaNdaan nor my above source is able to provide, I am unable to add any thing on that. Interestingly Sriman ramanujam added more in his earlier mail on how jeevaathma behaves in the `ordeal by fire'. That is given here. Quote - Ramanujam Varada Srinivasa Thatta [acharyatvsr (AT) hotmail (DOT) com] Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2004 11:41 AM RE: Ordeal by Fire – 1 & 2 - The case for Sita- pirAtti Consider the following points: 1) Seeta Piratti should have obeyed Rama and stayed back. Instead she made Lord Sree Rama Chandra take Her along to the forest. She disobeyed the Lords command. 2) She wanted the maya mrigam, knowing fully well that such a creature does not exist. She coveted a simple, earthly but glamorous object knowing it is "Kshanikam" in spite of the Lord telling Her so and that when the Lord was beside Her, who should have been the object for admiration, adoration and everything else. 3) When Maricha cried out impersonating Ramachandra Prabhu, How could she for one moment think that The Lord is vulnerable like ordinary beings? How could She doubt His ability to protect Himself and others? If the Lord cannot protect Himself How can He protect His devotees? This is how a Jeevathma behaves: 1) The Jeevathma disobeys the Lords commands and lands into difficulties. 2) when it sees something appealing to its 5 senses, in this case the eyes, the Jeevathma forgets the Lord (Parmathma), may be even for a fraction of a second. 3) When in distress Jeevathmas even doubt the Lord and His ability to protect them. After undergoing all hardships in this earthly life the Jeevathma finally surrenders to Lord Narayana with unquestioning faith. It is now even ready to jump into fire knowing well that the Lord will protect the believer and nothing can harm it. Adiyen, Ramanuja Dasan. – unquote. I think with this we can move on to some other interesting points in srimadh raamaayaNam. Thanks and regards Dhasan Vasudevan m.g. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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