Guest guest Posted May 22, 2006 Report Share Posted May 22, 2006 Dear kamal / Wendy, from my little knowledge, what i understood was mantra is direct seed which can be effective only when it is given by some guru...in short you need guru to select specific mantra suitable to you and give it you with his blessings so that it will be effective... otherwise the efficacy of mantras whether beej or composite is doubtful...Please note that this is my view from my interaction with various pandits in the south india and the practice differs in India also. second abt stotram....it is again nothing but mantras. It is a form of prayers with mantra's imbibed in between to make things easy for the layman...but in this case you dont require guru as the stotra's are being blessed by rishi's and given for common benefit...for eg...mantraraja pada stotra ..it is recited by lord shiva but it is nothing but form of prayer containing narasimha maha mantra...the same way..kanagadhara stotra written by sankaracharya...excellant piece of lakshmi mantra's imbibed works...the other one is soundarya lahari...again mantra imbibed prayers... it is always good to recite stotras rather than adopting other relief measures in the form of mantras.... for stotras...please see the link www.prapatti.com ganesh --- In Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2006 Report Share Posted May 22, 2006 Mantra & Strotam both are prayers to the Lord. Strotams are the distilled form of prayers wherein the Lord is glorified, it is slow in giving results, it has no negative effects when the strotam prayers are misprnounced or are not chanted with concentration whereas mantras are power prayers which give instant results. Mantras are to be chanted without any stammering or mispronounciation, with full concentration & have negative results if not chanted properly. Harry Wendy Vasicek <jyotish (AT) optusnet (DOT) com.au> wrote: Dear Kamal, If my understanding is correct, the mantra/s for the grahas (etc) consist of the Bija mantras specific to the grahas. Whereas a stotram is a prayer to the grahas (or whatever) which can be different depending upon who composed the prayer. Perhaps we could say a stotram is like a poem. I'm sure our Hindu members can offer more insight into this :-) Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ______________________________ - SIGHT SOLUTIONS jyotish-vidya Monday, May 22, 2006 2:05 AM difference between mantra and stotra Dear Group is there any difference between mantra and stotra. I can read Sanskrit, though do not understand. I have received two version from the net which appear to be different to each other. hope you all had a good weekend kamal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2006 Report Share Posted May 22, 2006 Dear Harry and Ganesh many thanks for clarifying the matter. So they have different content. Can one do all nine planet mantras or should do only which need to be strengthened. this count of many thousand of recitation is once a day ? thanks kamal - Haresh (Harry) Nathani jyotish-vidya Monday, May 22, 2006 9:54 AM Re: difference between mantra and stotra Mantra & Strotam both are prayers to the Lord. Strotams are the distilled form of prayers wherein the Lord is glorified, it is slow in giving results, it has no negative effects when the strotam prayers are misprnounced or are not chanted with concentration whereas mantras are power prayers which give instant results. Mantras are to be chanted without any stammering or mispronounciation, with full concentration & have negative results if not chanted properly. Harry Wendy Vasicek <jyotish (AT) optusnet (DOT) com.au> wrote: Dear Kamal, If my understanding is correct, the mantra/s for the grahas (etc) consist of the Bija mantras specific to the grahas. Whereas a stotram is a prayer to the grahas (or whatever) which can be different depending upon who composed the prayer. Perhaps we could say a stotram is like a poem. I'm sure our Hindu members can offer more insight into this :-) Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ______________________________ - SIGHT SOLUTIONS jyotish-vidya Monday, May 22, 2006 2:05 AM difference between mantra and stotra Dear Group is there any difference between mantra and stotra. I can read Sanskrit, though do not understand. I have received two version from the net which appear to be different to each other. hope you all had a good weekend kamal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2006 Report Share Posted May 22, 2006 Dear Kamal One must chant or read the prayers for getting rid of problem areas. If u have financial problem read Shree Lakshmi Strotam & Kanakdhara Strotam, health problems read Shree Narayan Kawach, not able to get married read Shree Chandi Devi Strotam etc etc etc. Harry SIGHT SOLUTIONS <sightsolutions (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote: Dear Harry and Ganesh many thanks for clarifying the matter. So they have different content. Can one do all nine planet mantras or should do only which need to be strengthened. this count of many thousand of recitation is once a day ? thanks kamal - Haresh (Harry) Nathani jyotish-vidya Monday, May 22, 2006 9:54 AM Re: difference between mantra and stotra Mantra & Strotam both are prayers to the Lord. Strotams are the distilled form of prayers wherein the Lord is glorified, it is slow in giving results, it has no negative effects when the strotam prayers are misprnounced or are not chanted with concentration whereas mantras are power prayers which give instant results. Mantras are to be chanted without any stammering or mispronounciation, with full concentration & have negative results if not chanted properly. Harry Wendy Vasicek <jyotish (AT) optusnet (DOT) com.au> wrote: Dear Kamal, If my understanding is correct, the mantra/s for the grahas (etc) consist of the Bija mantras specific to the grahas. Whereas a stotram is a prayer to the grahas (or whatever) which can be different depending upon who composed the prayer. Perhaps we could say a stotram is like a poem. I'm sure our Hindu members can offer more insight into this :-) Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ______________________________ - SIGHT SOLUTIONS jyotish-vidya Monday, May 22, 2006 2:05 AM difference between mantra and stotra Dear Group is there any difference between mantra and stotra. I can read Sanskrit, though do not understand. I have received two version from the net which appear to be different to each other. hope you all had a good weekend kamal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2006 Report Share Posted May 22, 2006 Dear Harry, if there is no specific problem. is there any good all purpose mantra or stotra? Or some thing for general happiness or one to remain contented. It is human nature to get deviated towards things which are not good for oneself or others. I feel I have been blessed and like many human feel worried if there is any thing around the corner. Like they say prevention is better than cure regards kamal - Haresh (Harry) Nathani jyotish-vidya Monday, May 22, 2006 10:33 AM Re: difference between mantra and stotra Dear Kamal One must chant or read the prayers for getting rid of problem areas. If u have financial problem read Shree Lakshmi Strotam & Kanakdhara Strotam, health problems read Shree Narayan Kawach, not able to get married read Shree Chandi Devi Strotam etc etc etc. Harry SIGHT SOLUTIONS <sightsolutions (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote: Dear Harry and Ganesh many thanks for clarifying the matter. So they have different content. Can one do all nine planet mantras or should do only which need to be strengthened. this count of many thousand of recitation is once a day ? thanks kamal - Haresh (Harry) Nathani jyotish-vidya Monday, May 22, 2006 9:54 AM Re: difference between mantra and stotra Mantra & Strotam both are prayers to the Lord. Strotams are the distilled form of prayers wherein the Lord is glorified, it is slow in giving results, it has no negative effects when the strotam prayers are misprnounced or are not chanted with concentration whereas mantras are power prayers which give instant results. Mantras are to be chanted without any stammering or mispronounciation, with full concentration & have negative results if not chanted properly. Harry Wendy Vasicek <jyotish (AT) optusnet (DOT) com.au> wrote: Dear Kamal, If my understanding is correct, the mantra/s for the grahas (etc) consist of the Bija mantras specific to the grahas. Whereas a stotram is a prayer to the grahas (or whatever) which can be different depending upon who composed the prayer. Perhaps we could say a stotram is like a poem. I'm sure our Hindu members can offer more insight into this :-) Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ______________________________ - SIGHT SOLUTIONS jyotish-vidya Monday, May 22, 2006 2:05 AM difference between mantra and stotra Dear Group is there any difference between mantra and stotra. I can read Sanskrit, though do not understand. I have received two version from the net which appear to be different to each other. hope you all had a good weekend kamal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 2006 Report Share Posted May 23, 2006 Dear Kamal and List, This is a good question Kamal, and your thoughts, 'prevention is better than cure' are in the same spirit as given by Maharish Mahesh Yogi regarding Jyotish, ""avert the danger that has not yet come" and to take maximum advantage of the fortunate periods coming in one's life." My great interest and love concerning the Nakshatras keeps me reading of them often, and in Prash Trivedi's excellent book on Nakshatras, he offers the root mantra of each nakshatra for remedial use, but also states that persons who are benefiting from the positive energy of individual nakshatras can also increase the good effects through the same ways. So as the Moon passes through the different nakshatras each day, (Moon resides just a little longer in each star than 1 day) it is good to chant the root mantra and also he offers some other benefiting actions for each star and their deities. You could also take this information and apply it to your individual planets located in these specific nakshatras. Or another option is to use this chanting perhaps only when the Moon is passing through one of the natal planets nakshatra positions, either for further enjoying of the positive energy one is receiving, or as a remedial measure to reduce suffering and bring enlightenment into a person's life. It makes sense to me that the same could be applied to the planets mantras as well. I go to a local temple here where it is also offered to perform a Puja to the Navagrahas (nine planet deities). And there are also CD's of the same. Also Yogi Karveji, the Indian saint that is able to give you your exact time of birth, gives a mantra that he says is for all the gods, and is beneficial for chanting each day. He says that this mantra will take care of 80% of a persons problems. Perhaps this is also due to the statistic that 80% of our problems stem from our minds, which is why the Moon is so important in Jyotish. If you're interested I can share this mantra as well. Kindest wishes, Patrice _____ jyotish-vidya [jyotish-vidya] On Behalf Of SIGHT SOLUTIONS Monday, May 22, 2006 6:03 AM jyotish-vidya Re: difference between mantra and stotra Dear Harry, if there is no specific problem. is there any good all purpose mantra or stotra? Or some thing for general happiness or one to remain contented. It is human nature to get deviated towards things which are not good for oneself or others. I feel I have been blessed and like many human feel worried if there is any thing around the corner. Like they say prevention is better than cure regards kamal _____ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 2006 Report Share Posted May 23, 2006 Dear Kamal and List, Correction to last post: I had read that the Moon resides just a little longer in each star beyond one day. Just checked this myself by using the animated transits chart in PL and have found that it does not reside more than 24 hours, and in fact is under 24 hours in the examples I used. So at most we can say only it is approximately one day in each nakshatra. Best wishes, Patrice _____ jyotish-vidya [jyotish-vidya] On Behalf Of Patrice Curry Monday, May 22, 2006 8:50 PM jyotish-vidya RE: difference between mantra and stotra Dear Kamal and List, This is a good question Kamal, and your thoughts, 'prevention is better than cure' are in the same spirit as given by Maharish Mahesh Yogi regarding Jyotish, ""avert the danger that has not yet come" and to take maximum advantage of the fortunate periods coming in one's life." My great interest and love concerning the Nakshatras keeps me reading of them often, and in Prash Trivedi's excellent book on Nakshatras, he offers the root mantra of each nakshatra for remedial use, but also states that persons who are benefiting from the positive energy of individual nakshatras can also increase the good effects through the same ways. So as the Moon passes through the different nakshatras each day, (Moon resides just a little longer in each star than 1 day) it is good to chant the root mantra and also he offers some other benefiting actions for each star and their deities. You could also take this information and apply it to your individual planets located in these specific nakshatras. Or another option is to use this chanting perhaps only when the Moon is passing through one of the natal planets nakshatra positions, either for further enjoying of the positive energy one is receiving, or as a remedial measure to reduce suffering and bring enlightenment into a person's life. It makes sense to me that the same could be applied to the planets mantras as well. I go to a local temple here where it is also offered to perform a Puja to the Navagrahas (nine planet deities). And there are also CD's of the same. Also Yogi Karveji, the Indian saint that is able to give you your exact time of birth, gives a mantra that he says is for all the gods, and is beneficial for chanting each day. He says that this mantra will take care of 80% of a persons problems. Perhaps this is also due to the statistic that 80% of our problems stem from our minds, which is why the Moon is so important in Jyotish. If you're interested I can share this mantra as well. Kindest wishes, Patrice _____ jyotish-vidya [jyotish-vidya] On Behalf Of SIGHT SOLUTIONS Monday, May 22, 2006 6:03 AM jyotish-vidya Re: difference between mantra and stotra Dear Harry, if there is no specific problem. is there any good all purpose mantra or stotra? Or some thing for general happiness or one to remain contented. It is human nature to get deviated towards things which are not good for oneself or others. I feel I have been blessed and like many human feel worried if there is any thing around the corner. Like they say prevention is better than cure regards kamal _____ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 2006 Report Share Posted May 23, 2006 Dear Kamal I am not aware of any general mantra or stotram, but I can suggest you a Guru Mantra and it is "HARE KRSNA HARE KRSNA KRSNA KRSNA HARE HARE HARE RAMA HARE RAMA RAMA RAMA HARE HARE" This maha mantra is a good & safe mantra to chant. One can chant this mantra at any point of time and in any state of mind. Their is no restriction on its chanting. Harry SIGHT SOLUTIONS <sightsolutions (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote: Dear Harry, if there is no specific problem. is there any good all purpose mantra or stotra? Or some thing for general happiness or one to remain contented. It is human nature to get deviated towards things which are not good for oneself or others. I feel I have been blessed and like many human feel worried if there is any thing around the corner. Like they say prevention is better than cure regards kamal - Haresh (Harry) Nathani jyotish-vidya Monday, May 22, 2006 10:33 AM Re: difference between mantra and stotra Dear Kamal One must chant or read the prayers for getting rid of problem areas. If u have financial problem read Shree Lakshmi Strotam & Kanakdhara Strotam, health problems read Shree Narayan Kawach, not able to get married read Shree Chandi Devi Strotam etc etc etc. Harry SIGHT SOLUTIONS <sightsolutions (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote: Dear Harry and Ganesh many thanks for clarifying the matter. So they have different content. Can one do all nine planet mantras or should do only which need to be strengthened. this count of many thousand of recitation is once a day ? thanks kamal - Haresh (Harry) Nathani jyotish-vidya Monday, May 22, 2006 9:54 AM Re: difference between mantra and stotra Mantra & Strotam both are prayers to the Lord. Strotams are the distilled form of prayers wherein the Lord is glorified, it is slow in giving results, it has no negative effects when the strotam prayers are misprnounced or are not chanted with concentration whereas mantras are power prayers which give instant results. Mantras are to be chanted without any stammering or mispronounciation, with full concentration & have negative results if not chanted properly. Harry Wendy Vasicek <jyotish (AT) optusnet (DOT) com.au> wrote: Dear Kamal, If my understanding is correct, the mantra/s for the grahas (etc) consist of the Bija mantras specific to the grahas. Whereas a stotram is a prayer to the grahas (or whatever) which can be different depending upon who composed the prayer. Perhaps we could say a stotram is like a poem. I'm sure our Hindu members can offer more insight into this :-) Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ______________________________ - SIGHT SOLUTIONS jyotish-vidya Monday, May 22, 2006 2:05 AM difference between mantra and stotra Dear Group is there any difference between mantra and stotra. I can read Sanskrit, though do not understand. I have received two version from the net which appear to be different to each other. hope you all had a good weekend kamal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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