Guest guest Posted May 23, 2006 Report Share Posted May 23, 2006 I just read something about Shalagram / Shaligram in Skandhapuran and Shila Sanhita . I would like to share . Shaligram is found in Kali Gandaki River Basin in Muktinath Nepal. Lord Vishu took several forms sevaral times because he was asked to take those forms by his devotees . He also took form of Peepal tree. Once a holy pious woman worshipper of Vishnu asked Visnu to take place in her womb for ever , Vishnu agreed . The name of the woman was also Gandaki. So before the woman dies Vishnu said her there will be River known as Gandaki on Tibetain Region and he will take form of stones in the river bed and be there untill maha pralaya . The bed of the river is being regarded as garbha of Gandaki . For devotees who does not have much understanding of Shila he also said since he will stay there for a long time all the Shila's will get Vishnu prapti . So any piece of stone collected from the bed , no matter the color shape size is equivalent to Shaligram . There is nothing like broken stone in this regard , all are his form devotion only counts . One said me that he went to Muktinath to collect such a stone . On his trek for 8 hours from Jomsoom through the Kali Gandaki basin, he was unable to recognize the stones , as they were coverd with algae's. He felt frustrated thinking Vishnu is never going to appear before him as he expected to see black polished stones, but for final try he started chanting loudly Vishnu dhyan with his arms in surrender mode. To his surprise immediately he found that a big blue stone of 5 kg wt approx suddenly started to roll over the water from a uphill stream and some how stopped in front of him and he realise it is Narasingha Shila . I think this way is miraculous and unexplainable darshan . It is said by Lord Shiva in skandha puran , that this form of Lord Vishnu is the most precious form and Shalagram has to be passed from one devotee to other just by words of faith. Anyone who has tried to assign some value to that peice of stone , no matter with what - money jewels grains etc has committed the biggest blunder in life by attaching a finte value to THE OMNIPRESENT RULER OF THIS UNIVERSE . Lord Vishnu is the supreme personality and no one can measure his weight. Such persons have no rescue but will be confined to Yamlok with no re-births of whatever kind untill the time of final destruction. He will only get some form of life after Kali Yug is finished. Shiva also said , For all devata's and devi's there are upachar to get their blessing but for Lord Vishnu the only upachar is BHAKTI ( like Hanuman Ji had for Ramchandra another incarnation of Narayan ). His tests are very hard to pass but he always listens to his devotee who had cleared the exam . Also Lord Shiva said ,if one prays Lord Shiva himself without giving water to Vishnu , Lord Bhairav does not accept his puja . He esspecially pointed out that all the tantras that he spoke from his 5 faces to Devi has only been spoken with the acknowledgement, consent of Lord Vishnu. Its wrong to believe that Lord Vishnu is detached from tantra , rather he is a very big Tantrik . He also said Ugra forms of Lord Vishnu like Narasingha and Varaha shila are only to be possesed by syannasi who have left home . For family mans Matsya , Kurma , Ram , Valaram , Laxmi-Narayan are to be kept . There are also long facts about each forms but Kurma should be kept by one who had undertaken some oath in life - like to do a sadhana because it is a form which when worshipped gives enormous patience and challenging attitude . Kurma avatar of Vishnu supported the mountain that came out as a result of churning the ocean during Samudra Manthan . You can check pictures available in the net for this . Its also said if one cannot take the risk of keeping a Shalagram , take a picture and frame it . Watching Shalagram has some positive values too . So in short , Skandha puran warns trade of Shalagram . There are many organizations who are selling it without caring about these remarks , some are caring these rules so they say that if your bill for other stuffs goes past a certain amount they will give you one. But if you think in economic terms , the amount of money that the bill has to reach for getting a Shalagram for free ( as they say but i dont think so ) is more than enough for 2 people to go to Muktinath for a trek and collect it by hand. It will also be a tour watching the bountifull Annapurna range and your purpose served without any mistake. Many Shakta just thinks because they have mantra of Devi , they must refrain from worshipping Vishnu . Its just ignorance and sampradaayik differences but not true. For any puja Ganesh and Vishnu are must worships , Ganesh for smooth performing of the puja and Vishnu for we ignorant we don't not know how to worship . At the end of the puja everyone says " O Narayan i don't know any Avahan , and pujan , Neither i know visarjan , So please forgive this stupid ." Jay Gurudev Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2006 Report Share Posted May 24, 2006 Great article. mathhelp_04 <mathhelp_04 > wrote: I just read something about Shalagram / Shaligram in Skandhapuran and Shila Sanhita . I would like to share . Shaligram is found in Kali Gandaki River Basin in Muktinath Nepal. Lord Vishu took several forms sevaral times because he was asked to take those forms by his devotees . He also took form of Peepal tree. Once a holy pious woman worshipper of Vishnu asked Visnu to take place in her womb for ever , Vishnu agreed . The name of the woman was also Gandaki. So before the woman dies Vishnu said her there will be River known as Gandaki on Tibetain Region and he will take form of stones in the river bed and be there untill maha pralaya . The bed of the river is being regarded as garbha of Gandaki . For devotees who does not have much understanding of Shila he also said since he will stay there for a long time all the Shila's will get Vishnu prapti . So any piece of stone collected from the bed , no matter the color shape size is equivalent to Shaligram . There is nothing like broken stone in this regard , all are his form devotion only counts . One said me that he went to Muktinath to collect such a stone . On his trek for 8 hours from Jomsoom through the Kali Gandaki basin, he was unable to recognize the stones , as they were coverd with algae's. He felt frustrated thinking Vishnu is never going to appear before him as he expected to see black polished stones, but for final try he started chanting loudly Vishnu dhyan with his arms in surrender mode. To his surprise immediately he found that a big blue stone of 5 kg wt approx suddenly started to roll over the water from a uphill stream and some how stopped in front of him and he realise it is Narasingha Shila . I think this way is miraculous and unexplainable darshan . It is said by Lord Shiva in skandha puran , that this form of Lord Vishnu is the most precious form and Shalagram has to be passed from one devotee to other just by words of faith. Anyone who has tried to assign some value to that peice of stone , no matter with what - money jewels grains etc has committed the biggest blunder in life by attaching a finte value to THE OMNIPRESENT RULER OF THIS UNIVERSE . Lord Vishnu is the supreme personality and no one can measure his weight. Such persons have no rescue but will be confined to Yamlok with no re-births of whatever kind untill the time of final destruction. He will only get some form of life after Kali Yug is finished. Shiva also said , For all devata's and devi's there are upachar to get their blessing but for Lord Vishnu the only upachar is BHAKTI ( like Hanuman Ji had for Ramchandra another incarnation of Narayan ). His tests are very hard to pass but he always listens to his devotee who had cleared the exam . Also Lord Shiva said ,if one prays Lord Shiva himself without giving water to Vishnu , Lord Bhairav does not accept his puja . He esspecially pointed out that all the tantras that he spoke from his 5 faces to Devi has only been spoken with the acknowledgement, consent of Lord Vishnu. Its wrong to believe that Lord Vishnu is detached from tantra , rather he is a very big Tantrik . He also said Ugra forms of Lord Vishnu like Narasingha and Varaha shila are only to be possesed by syannasi who have left home . For family mans Matsya , Kurma , Ram , Valaram , Laxmi-Narayan are to be kept . There are also long facts about each forms but Kurma should be kept by one who had undertaken some oath in life - like to do a sadhana because it is a form which when worshipped gives enormous patience and challenging attitude . Kurma avatar of Vishnu supported the mountain that came out as a result of churning the ocean during Samudra Manthan . You can check pictures available in the net for this . Its also said if one cannot take the risk of keeping a Shalagram , take a picture and frame it . Watching Shalagram has some positive values too . So in short , Skandha puran warns trade of Shalagram . There are many organizations who are selling it without caring about these remarks , some are caring these rules so they say that if your bill for other stuffs goes past a certain amount they will give you one. But if you think in economic terms , the amount of money that the bill has to reach for getting a Shalagram for free ( as they say but i dont think so ) is more than enough for 2 people to go to Muktinath for a trek and collect it by hand. It will also be a tour watching the bountifull Annapurna range and your purpose served without any mistake. Many Shakta just thinks because they have mantra of Devi , they must refrain from worshipping Vishnu . Its just ignorance and sampradaayik differences but not true. For any puja Ganesh and Vishnu are must worships , Ganesh for smooth performing of the puja and Vishnu for we ignorant we don't not know how to worship . At the end of the puja everyone says " O Narayan i don't know any Avahan , and pujan , Neither i know visarjan , So please forgive this stupid ." Jay Gurudev Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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