Guest guest Posted May 26, 2006 Report Share Posted May 26, 2006 Dear Friends, The uneasy divide between west and east always has been there. In material reality and the issues it deals with as well as that beautiful and beatific (some say) realm of human experience that modern humans deal with -- the spiritual reality! Oxymoronic in a sense, because reality cannot come with conditions! It is all or none! Like a mother or maternal qualities! Maternal instinct does not change really based on where one is born, or which culture is being focused upon. What changes or is different is the maternal expression! I am not trying to make a case for astrology as being a matriarche or even having lunar maternal qualities, though it does have a strong element of caring and nurturing that should ideally go on between the astrologer and nativity. We all fail on that very tough kasauti, testbench! Weary astrologers snap at seekers for answers, sometimes rightly, but also hastily at times -- we are all human, after all. Egos, emotions get hurt, offended, who knows if such instances were unnecessary or all within the complex intricate web of karma or whatever name we choose to give it. Tension also exists between astrologers, of all cloths! Currently, several schools exist, but the biggest divide exists between east and west. The zodiacs are different, thanks to the variable known as ayanamsha (variable!) or precessional correction to the synetic vernal point (SVP) or whatever else they want to call it. There are other schools but either they do not visit each others' forums or remain silent or do not care (tsk tsk!) -- I do hope though that they do! Without western/tropical astrology, and more importantly astrologers who practice that craft, I would not have fallen in love with jyotish (story repeated ad nauseum elsewhere hence sparing present captive audience ;-)) The perspective is quite simple. And paradoxical! Even ironical!! Sidereal zodiac that jyotishis follow is the visible zodiac. When you look up, there are constellations, that represent aries, sagittarius, scorpio, kumbha, meena! Mars streaming across pisces in the sky would be placed exactly in that sign in a jyotish chart! The monkey wrench is this: There is no clear fence or boundary that demarcates the rashi or signs? Where does aries begin or cancer end in the sky? When can we definitively say that saturn has left karka rashi and entered leo? Why did God the SAVIOUR (Sorry!) did not put up a wall that was clearly visible and would remove this uncertainty? Why do we serious astrologers need to mess around with chitra and revati and galactic center to figure out or as some say 'guess' (sadhu sadhu!) the correct ayanamsha? Well I am not that ambitious and certainly cannot solve the controversy that has extended for centuries I am sure about what is that magic number, the Holy Grail (in jyotish, that is!)? On the other hand, the western/tropical astrologer brethren/sistren (?) have focused their sights on the very earth we live on (makes pragmatic sense!) and tied the first point of the zodiac that they wish to use to the earth where our experiences lie (hmm ... that is a paradox worth visiting sometime later -- experiences <that> lie?). Tropical zodiac rests on the geocentric zodiac of seasons. When Sun, which is really the projection of earth into the celestial zodiac -- they chose the first point of aries as the moment when sun was at the vernal/autumnal equinox (north/south). The night becomes equal to the day and that moment marks the first point of aries, the beginning of the tropical zodiac. Spring (to keep it simple) comes at the same time each year, or does it? If you look hard, you will find that the conventional first day of spring or summer or winter etc are not days that are circumscribed and ATAL (permanent, immutable!). I will not give a URL. If you want to explore -- you will have to work a bit! Sorry!! So even the beginnings of the tropical zodiac are not all that straight and narrow, though narrower than the sidereal zodiac, I admit! As I stated, the season for a given epoch, spring, winter whatever would be diametrically opposite depending on the hemisphere! As spring is announcing itself, cold winter is receding, flowers are beginning to sprout, allergies are just starting, all those 'spring' smells are revealing themselves (!) and overwhelming us, in the north, the same entry of sun into aries is signalling the onset of autumn in Australia and other southern hemisphere countries. While we are coming out of our shelters and hibernations, our southern brethren (and ...) are preparing to baton the hatches down, getting ready for winter and whatever it brings to them -- hopefully less misery than some of us living in high northern latitudes! Just as the heavens are deceptive (ayanamsha) so are seasons (tropical markers) and ONE explanation would just not do! The ram with its generative energy as symbolism that we would like to embrace spring with very quickly cannot be turned into the 'old goat' that fall and winter would signify to the southern hemispherical reality! The same may be true for cancer, libra and capricorn that we would like to use, tropically and seasonally to explain summer/winter, autumn/spring and winter/summer just based on where we live! There has got to be a more cohesive and universally applicable symbolism to astrology! I leave it at that in your able hands, dear astrologer friends, western, eastern, northern and southern! Let us not forget or ignore any corner of this earth when we consider the one and ideal orientation point for astrology that should at least apply globally, from pole to pole and ocean to ocean, whether it applies to zodiacs or house divisions! Love, Rohiniranjan SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND RELISH THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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