Role of Lagna/7th house in predicting marriage 26/5

May 26, 2006

Dear Mr Kumar,

Are we really sharing invention on the list? Oh! I never realized

this. I always thought, that we are sharing experiences, and like life

- they might move in circles.

Understanably karmic balances of past life are carried forward; and

they can native pleasures as well sufferings in present life. But not

all reflections are karmic balances. For example - in family charts,

if there is pitra dosha - then it is believed that, there is some

pariharya required towards them; and this is applicable to entire

famiy, for their role as pitras of the family. May be you can clarify

this to karmic balances, else we may again be in circles.

regards / Prafulla

, Prashant Kumar G B

<gbp_kumar> wrote:

>

> PRAFULLA,

> the discussion seems to be doing rounds as if ths is an invention?.

>

> this is a fact that vedic or Hindu culture clearly says, Roga,

runa, pashu, patni, sukha, sutha etc come from past karmas [lives] it

is b/f [in any bank statment u c b/f=brought forward] figure.

> so too ur chart indicates such thigns and also ur family members,

friends.

> the friends u kep or the banks that lend have some link to ur

karma threads.

>

> karma mean all forms of action not just the negitive connotation

karma=fate. if u have good karma balanc eu end up in good families,

friends circle else mixed or bad ones depending on ur b/f status.

> AND ALL EVENTS HAVE A TIME AND PLACE TO HAPPEN this is also part

of the b/f,

>

> for clarity i repeat

> roga=disease/health

> runa=debts, O/D credit worthiness

> pashu=cattle or means of livelihood, pets also

> patni=spouse, partner

> sutha=children, grand children...

> Sukha=happines/comforts etc.

> this r broad list, evey word used hee has a lot more and Sanskrit

words have implied and pregnant meanings to it after delivery can

mean a lot more.

>

> Prafulla Gang <ripra_solutions> wrote:

> If you observe the planetary similiarities in family charts, they also

> indicate common dosha in the family (pitru dosha, curses etc). and

> mostly, they go the circumstances together..so when looking at

> individual charts, it is often critical to observe the trends in

> family charts too (if in joint family then in the charts of brothers,

> father etc; and otherwise in wife/kids etc).

>

> I really do not know, if these things need to be observed in the

> charts of friends etc.

>

> regards / Prafulla Gang

>

> , "astrozeal" <astrozeal@>

> wrote:

> >

> > 5th house is associated with friendships and love Its

interesting

> > to see they both have it in the same house..

> >

> > , Rohit Sharma

> > <dhanulagna@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Yes u r right.

> > > What i observed that my frndz have atleast one planet

> > > present in same house where i have.

> > > My brother chart have Rahu in 5th house & his fast

> > > frnd also have Rahu in 5.

> > > This is really amazing and interesting .

> > > ---

> > > <astrozeal@> wrote:

> > > > Thank you Prafulla for your reply. I would say we

> > > interact with so

> > > > many people in our lifetime that it becomes

> > > difficult to

> > > > analyze/look for such similarities. But parents,

> > > spouse and family

> > > > are probably the most definitive relationships that

> > > we can identify

> > > > with.

> > > >

> > > > , "Prafulla

> > > Gang"

> > > > <ripra_solutions@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > If our present birth is for our past karmic

> > > balances; then all the

> > > > > people, we meet / interact / live with, have some

> > > relationship

> > > > with us

> > > > > (karmic debt - favourable / unfavourable of some

> > > past life). Our

> > > > > parents, family members, brothers/sisters,

> > > friends, classmates etc

> > > > are

> > > > > no exception.

> > > > >

> > > > > Yes, in many charts - i observed this 1 / 7

> > > relations (in fact, in

> > > > my

> > > > > chart too my lagna is leo, my wife's lagna is

> > > kumbha; and both have

> > > > > mid point at around 10'). Perhaps, in such cases -

> > > most transits

> > > > > coincides at bhava madhya for both the natives and

> > > have higher

> > > > > intensity of karmic obligations.

> > > > >

> > > > > In family chart too, one might observe - lots of

> > > trends - (for

> > > > example

> > > > > - saturn venus together for me /wife, same dasha

> > > running for

> > > > natives -

> > > > > me / my brother, rahu in 12th house for many

> > > members my wife / my

> > > > > daughter, saturn in 8th me / my brother, mars ketu

> > > in conjunction

> > > > me /

> > > > > my wife, mars debilitated my wife / my son,

> > > jupiter in dhanu my

> > > > wife

> > > > > /my daughter etc). This might be higher degree of

> > > karmic bond or

> > > > debt

> > > > > amongst family members.

> > > > >

> > > > > Members may share their experience.

> > > > >

> > > > > regards / Prafulla Gang

> > > > >

> > > > > ,

> > > "astrozeal" <astrozeal@>

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > What role does the 7th house play in predicting

> > > the lagna

> > > > > > of your spouse? I have read that the 7th house,

> > > as well as

> > > > navamsha

> > > > > > (its lagna and 7th house can be accurately used

> > > to predict about

> > > > > > your marriage).

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I noticed a peculiar relationship between the

> > > chart of myself

> > > > and my

> > > > > > partner. Basically his 7th house (Aquarius)is my

> > > 1st house mnd

> > > > my

> > > > > > 7th house (Leo) is his Moon lagna.. Our Rahu-Ketu

> > > also have a 1/7

> > > > > > axis - which I have read indicates "destiny" to

> > > a relationship

> > > > as it

> > > > > > indicates past/future lives. I have known this

> > > person for about

> > > > 9

> > > > > > years now.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Also, I noted that in Navamsha, our moon which

> > > is also used as a

> > > > > > compatibility factor - in both of our charts, it

> > > is in Taurus.

> > > > Would

> > > > > > this indicate a strong emotional bond being in

> > > the same sign?

> > > > > > In fact, in my rashi chart, my 4th house

> > > (representing mother)

> > > > is my

> > > > > > mother's lagna and my Sun (representing father)

> > > is located in my

> > > > > > father's lagna! Has anyone used charts to

> > > predict such family

> > > > > > relationship/marriage?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Also according to Sanjay Rath, we will often

> > > meet our future

> > > > spouse

> > > > > > in period of Venus and marriage can happen in

> > > any indicator in

> > > > your

> > > > > > chart, but specifically Rahu-Ketu must be

> > > transiting 1/7 axis in

> > > > > > lagna, chandra lagna or Navamsha.

> > > > > > He was in Mahadasha of Venus and I was in

> > > Antardasha of Venus

> > > > when

> > > === Message Truncated ===

> > >

> > > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam protection around

> > >

> >

>

> SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND RELISH

THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS.

>

May 26, 2006

H Prafull,

sure u do share the same pitru runa or dosha or whatver all those with such pitru dosha will be linked in a family

Here Bhagavad Gita Chap 15-16 does say this

that people born of good Vasana & samskara r born in good families where humility, humaneness, religiousness, wealth [earned by right means] name, philantrophy, education, Vinaya, fame r there.

and where the raklsha elements r there in ones karma they r born to such people where envey, anger, false prestige, ego, hatred, revenge etc are there.

so in such charts u will see only such patterns imprinted some planet in the former list Guru may be strong and good ravi, chandra too in most of such family memebers

in the latter list u can have Guru with rahu/ketu, sani or weak chandra or Budha. so the later lot traints r in thier charts with stonger Mars and aflicted sun at least.

so in both cases some planets will be either in a particular house or its lord will have its aspect, conjuction or location shared.

u may study the Mughal charts for example for the latter, even Nehru parivar.

the former u may find Gandhis family, Sardar patel, S C BOSE, GHokle family membenrs who remained silent heros. none of their lineage took advantage or pushed themselves to any positions by their family brand name.

look at the poor temple priests in any state good ones relly knowledgeable imean r poor the commercial or explitiative r ok or well to do etc. every wher eu will find some imprints in family shared.

I had a classmate a Sindhi docter pin school days] who for 3 generatiosn studied medicne to get good dowry and did not practice in their lives. i guess the 4th generation must be on its course by now. if their outlook was same some planets must also say it

1. they r not practicing docters

2. they r living off unearned income

3. in-laws income.

4. shamless, no slef-esteem too.

5. wasted a good seat for some to serve people.

Prafulla Gang <ripra_solutions > wrote: Dear Mr Kumar,

Are we really sharing invention on the list? Oh! I never realized

this. I always thought, that we are sharing experiences, and like life

- they might move in circles.

Understanably karmic balances of past life are carried forward; and

they can native pleasures as well sufferings in present life. But not

all reflections are karmic balances. For example - in family charts,

if there is pitra dosha - then it is believed that, there is some

pariharya required towards them; and this is applicable to entire

famiy, for their role as pitras of the family. May be you can clarify

this to karmic balances, else we may again be in circles.

regards / Prafulla

, Prashant Kumar G B

<gbp_kumar> wrote:

>

> PRAFULLA,

> the discussion seems to be doing rounds as if ths is an invention?.

>

> this is a fact that vedic or Hindu culture clearly says, Roga,

runa, pashu, patni, sukha, sutha etc come from past karmas [lives] it

is b/f [in any bank statment u c b/f=brought forward] figure..

> so too ur chart indicates such thigns and also ur family members,

friends.

> the friends u kep or the banks that lend have some link to ur

karma threads.

>

> karma mean all forms of action not just the negitive connotation

karma=fate. if u have good karma balanc eu end up in good families,

friends circle else mixed or bad ones depending on ur b/f status.

> AND ALL EVENTS HAVE A TIME AND PLACE TO HAPPEN this is also part

of the b/f,

>

> for clarity i repeat

> roga=disease/health

> runa=debts, O/D credit worthiness

> pashu=cattle or means of livelihood, pets also

> patni=spouse, partner

> sutha=children, grand children...

> Sukha=happines/comforts etc.

> this r broad list, evey word used hee has a lot more and Sanskrit

words have implied and pregnant meanings to it after delivery can

mean a lot more.

>

> Prafulla Gang <ripra_solutions> wrote:

> If you observe the planetary similiarities in family charts, they also

> indicate common dosha in the family (pitru dosha, curses etc). and

> mostly, they go the circumstances together..so when looking at

> individual charts, it is often critical to observe the trends in

> family charts too (if in joint family then in the charts of brothers,

> father etc; and otherwise in wife/kids etc).

>

> I really do not know, if these things need to be observed in the

> charts of friends etc.

>

> regards / Prafulla Gang

>

> , "astrozeal" <astrozeal@>

> wrote:

> >

> > 5th house is associated with friendships and love Its

interesting

> > to see they both have it in the same house..

> >

> > , Rohit Sharma

> > <dhanulagna@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Yes u r right.

> > > What i observed that my frndz have atleast one planet

> > > present in same house where i have.

> > > My brother chart have Rahu in 5th house & his fast

> > > frnd also have Rahu in 5.

> > > This is really amazing and interesting .

> > > ---

> > > <astrozeal@> wrote:

> > > > Thank you Prafulla for your reply. I would say we

> > > interact with so

> > > > many people in our lifetime that it becomes

> > > difficult to

> > > > analyze/look for such similarities. But parents,

> > > spouse and family

> > > > are probably the most definitive relationships that

> > > we can identify

> > > > with.

> > > >

> > > > , "Prafulla

> > > Gang"

> > > > <ripra_solutions@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > If our present birth is for our past karmic

> > > balances; then all the

> > > > > people, we meet / interact / live with, have some

> > > relationship

> > > > with us

> > > > > (karmic debt - favourable / unfavourable of some

> > > past life). Our

> > > > > parents, family members, brothers/sisters,

> > > friends, classmates etc

> > > > are

> > > > > no exception.

> > > > >

> > > > > Yes, in many charts - i observed this 1 / 7

> > > relations (in fact, in

> > > > my

> > > > > chart too my lagna is leo, my wife's lagna is

> > > kumbha; and both have

> > > > > mid point at around 10'). Perhaps, in such cases -

> > > most transits

> > > > > coincides at bhava madhya for both the natives and

> > > have higher

> > > > > intensity of karmic obligations..

> > > > >

> > > > > In family chart too, one might observe - lots of

> > > trends - (for

> > > > example

> > > > > - saturn venus together for me /wife, same dasha

> > > running for

> > > > natives -

> > > > > me / my brother, rahu in 12th house for many

> > > members my wife / my

> > > > > daughter, saturn in 8th me / my brother, mars ketu

> > > in conjunction

> > > > me /

> > > > > my wife, mars debilitated my wife / my son,

> > > jupiter in dhanu my

> > > > wife

> > > > > /my daughter etc). This might be higher degree of

> > > karmic bond or

> > > > debt

> > > > > amongst family members.

> > > > >

> > > > > Members may share their experience.

> > > > >

> > > > > regards / Prafulla Gang

> > > > >

> > > > > ,

> > > "astrozeal" <astrozeal@>

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > What role does the 7th house play in predicting

> > > the lagna

> > > > > > of your spouse? I have read that the 7th house,

> > > as well as

> > > > navamsha

> > > > > > (its lagna and 7th house can be accurately used

> > > to predict about

> > > > > > your marriage).

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I noticed a peculiar relationship between the

> > > chart of myself

> > > > and my

> > > > > > partner. Basically his 7th house (Aquarius)is my

> > > 1st house mnd

> > > > my

> > > > > > 7th house (Leo) is his Moon lagna. Our Rahu-Ketu

> > > also have a 1/7

> > > > > > axis - which I have read indicates "destiny" to

> > > a relationship

> > > > as it

> > > > > > indicates past/future lives. I have known this

> > > person for about

> > > > 9

> > > > > > years now.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Also, I noted that in Navamsha, our moon which

> > > is also used as a

> > > > > > compatibility factor - in both of our charts, it

> > > is in Taurus.

> > > > Would

> > > > > > this indicate a strong emotional bond being in

> > > the same sign?

> > > > > > In fact, in my rashi chart, my 4th house

> > > (representing mother)

> > > > is my

> > > > > > mother's lagna and my Sun (representing father)

> > > is located in my

> > > > > > father's lagna! Has anyone used charts to

> > > predict such family

> > > > > > relationship/marriage?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Also according to Sanjay Rath, we will often

> > > meet our future

> > > > spouse

> > > > > > in period of Venus and marriage can happen in

> > > any indicator in

> > > > your

> > > > > > chart, but specifically Rahu-Ketu must be

> > > transiting 1/7 axis in

> > > > > > lagna, chandra lagna or Navamsha.

> > > > > > He was in Mahadasha of Venus and I was in

> > > Antardasha of Venus

> > > > when

> > > === Message Truncated ===

> > >

> > > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam protection around

> > >

> >

>

> SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND RELISH

THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS.

>

May 26, 2006

Dear Mr Kumar,

I agree with you in seeing the patterns in group charts (including for

family members).

(I have been told in various discussions with astrologerswriting

panchang - do not have direct experience in it)However, for pitra

dosha etc, these trends are very important to be seen in family

members. and also it is often used to determine, the family member

(blessed one) to carry out necessary pooja etc.

regards / Prafulla Gang

, Prashant Kumar G B

<gbp_kumar> wrote:

>

> H Prafull,

> sure u do share the same pitru runa or dosha or whatver all those

with such pitru dosha will be linked in a family

>

> Here Bhagavad Gita Chap 15-16 does say this

> that people born of good Vasana & samskara r born in good families

where humility, humaneness, religiousness, wealth [earned by right

means] name, philantrophy, education, Vinaya, fame r there.

>

> and where the raklsha elements r there in ones karma they r born

to such people where envey, anger, false prestige, ego, hatred,

revenge etc are there.

>

> so in such charts u will see only such patterns imprinted some

planet in the former list Guru may be strong and good ravi, chandra

too in most of such family memebers

>

> in the latter list u can have Guru with rahu/ketu, sani or weak

chandra or Budha. so the later lot traints r in thier charts with

stonger Mars and aflicted sun at least.

>

> so in both cases some planets will be either in a particular house

or its lord will have its aspect, conjuction or location shared.

>

> u may study the Mughal charts for example for the latter, even

Nehru parivar.

>

> the former u may find Gandhis family, Sardar patel, S C BOSE,

GHokle family membenrs who remained silent heros. none of their

lineage took advantage or pushed themselves to any positions by their

family brand name.

>

> look at the poor temple priests in any state good ones relly

knowledgeable imean r poor the commercial or explitiative r ok or

well to do etc. every wher eu will find some imprints in family shared.

>

> I had a classmate a Sindhi docter pin school days] who for 3

generatiosn studied medicne to get good dowry and did not practice in

their lives. i guess the 4th generation must be on its course by now.

if their outlook was same some planets must also say it

>

> 1. they r not practicing docters

> 2. they r living off unearned income

> 3. in-laws income.

> 4. shamless, no slef-esteem too.

> 5. wasted a good seat for some to serve people.

>

> Prafulla Gang <ripra_solutions> wrote: Dear Mr Kumar,

>

> Are we really sharing invention on the list? Oh! I never realized

> this. I always thought, that we are sharing experiences, and like life

> - they might move in circles.

>

> Understanably karmic balances of past life are carried forward; and

> they can native pleasures as well sufferings in present life. But not

> all reflections are karmic balances. For example - in family charts,

> if there is pitra dosha - then it is believed that, there is some

> pariharya required towards them; and this is applicable to entire

> famiy, for their role as pitras of the family. May be you can clarify

> this to karmic balances, else we may again be in circles.

>

> regards / Prafulla

>

> , Prashant Kumar G B

> <gbp_kumar@> wrote:

> >

> > PRAFULLA,

> > the discussion seems to be doing rounds as if ths is an

invention?.

> >

> > this is a fact that vedic or Hindu culture clearly says, Roga,

> runa, pashu, patni, sukha, sutha etc come from past karmas [lives] it

> is b/f [in any bank statment u c b/f=brought forward] figure.

> > so too ur chart indicates such thigns and also ur family members,

> friends.

> > the friends u kep or the banks that lend have some link to ur

> karma threads.

> >

> > karma mean all forms of action not just the negitive connotation

> karma=fate. if u have good karma balanc eu end up in good families,

> friends circle else mixed or bad ones depending on ur b/f status.

> > AND ALL EVENTS HAVE A TIME AND PLACE TO HAPPEN this is also part

> of the b/f,

> >

> > for clarity i repeat

> > roga=disease/health

> > runa=debts, O/D credit worthiness

> > pashu=cattle or means of livelihood, pets also

> > patni=spouse, partner

> > sutha=children, grand children...

> > Sukha=happines/comforts etc.

> > this r broad list, evey word used hee has a lot more and Sanskrit

> words have implied and pregnant meanings to it after delivery can

> mean a lot more.

> >

> > Prafulla Gang <ripra_solutions@> wrote:

> > If you observe the planetary similiarities in family charts,

they also

> > indicate common dosha in the family (pitru dosha, curses etc). and

> > mostly, they go the circumstances together..so when looking at

> > individual charts, it is often critical to observe the trends in

> > family charts too (if in joint family then in the charts of

brothers,

> > father etc; and otherwise in wife/kids etc).

> >

> > I really do not know, if these things need to be observed in the

> > charts of friends etc.

> >

> > regards / Prafulla Gang

> >

> > , "astrozeal" <astrozeal@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > 5th house is associated with friendships and love Its

> interesting

> > > to see they both have it in the same house..

> > >

> > > , Rohit Sharma

> > > <dhanulagna@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Yes u r right.

> > > > What i observed that my frndz have atleast one planet

> > > > present in same house where i have.

> > > > My brother chart have Rahu in 5th house & his fast

> > > > frnd also have Rahu in 5.

> > > > This is really amazing and interesting .

> > > > ---

> > > > <astrozeal@> wrote:

> > > > > Thank you Prafulla for your reply. I would say we

> > > > interact with so

> > > > > many people in our lifetime that it becomes

> > > > difficult to

> > > > > analyze/look for such similarities. But parents,

> > > > spouse and family

> > > > > are probably the most definitive relationships that

> > > > we can identify

> > > > > with.

> > > > >

> > > > > , "Prafulla

> > > > Gang"

> > > > > <ripra_solutions@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > If our present birth is for our past karmic

> > > > balances; then all the

> > > > > > people, we meet / interact / live with, have some

> > > > relationship

> > > > > with us

> > > > > > (karmic debt - favourable / unfavourable of some

> > > > past life). Our

> > > > > > parents, family members, brothers/sisters,

> > > > friends, classmates etc

> > > > > are

> > > > > > no exception.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Yes, in many charts - i observed this 1 / 7

> > > > relations (in fact, in

> > > > > my

> > > > > > chart too my lagna is leo, my wife's lagna is

> > > > kumbha; and both have

> > > > > > mid point at around 10'). Perhaps, in such cases -

> > > > most transits

> > > > > > coincides at bhava madhya for both the natives and

> > > > have higher

> > > > > > intensity of karmic obligations.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > In family chart too, one might observe - lots of

> > > > trends - (for

> > > > > example

> > > > > > - saturn venus together for me /wife, same dasha

> > > > running for

> > > > > natives -

> > > > > > me / my brother, rahu in 12th house for many

> > > > members my wife / my

> > > > > > daughter, saturn in 8th me / my brother, mars ketu

> > > > in conjunction

> > > > > me /

> > > > > > my wife, mars debilitated my wife / my son,

> > > > jupiter in dhanu my

> > > > > wife

> > > > > > /my daughter etc). This might be higher degree of

> > > > karmic bond or

> > > > > debt

> > > > > > amongst family members.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Members may share their experience.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > regards / Prafulla Gang

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ,

> > > > "astrozeal" <astrozeal@>

> > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > What role does the 7th house play in predicting

> > > > the lagna

> > > > > > > of your spouse? I have read that the 7th house,

> > > > as well as

> > > > > navamsha

> > > > > > > (its lagna and 7th house can be accurately used

> > > > to predict about

> > > > > > > your marriage).

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I noticed a peculiar relationship between the

> > > > chart of myself

> > > > > and my

> > > > > > > partner. Basically his 7th house (Aquarius)is my

> > > > 1st house mnd

> > > > > my

> > > > > > > 7th house (Leo) is his Moon lagna. Our Rahu-Ketu

> > > > also have a 1/7

> > > > > > > axis - which I have read indicates "destiny" to

> > > > a relationship

> > > > > as it

> > > > > > > indicates past/future lives. I have known this

> > > > person for about

> > > > > 9

> > > > > > > years now.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Also, I noted that in Navamsha, our moon which

> > > > is also used as a

> > > > > > > compatibility factor - in both of our charts, it

> > > > is in Taurus.

> > > > > Would

> > > > > > > this indicate a strong emotional bond being in

> > > > the same sign?

> > > > > > > In fact, in my rashi chart, my 4th house

> > > > (representing mother)

> > > > > is my

> > > > > > > mother's lagna and my Sun (representing father)

> > > > is located in my

> > > > > > > father's lagna! Has anyone used charts to

> > > > predict such family

> > > > > > > relationship/marriage?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Also according to Sanjay Rath, we will often

> > > > meet our future

> > > > > spouse

> > > > > > > in period of Venus and marriage can happen in

> > > > any indicator in

> > > > > your

> > > > > > > chart, but specifically Rahu-Ketu must be

> > > > transiting 1/7 axis in

> > > > > > > lagna, chandra lagna or Navamsha.

> > > > > > > He was in Mahadasha of Venus and I was in

> > > > Antardasha of Venus

> > > > > when

> > > > === Message Truncated ===

> > > >

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> >

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> >

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