Guest guest Posted May 28, 2006 Report Share Posted May 28, 2006 namah shivaya! Yes, the orthodox priests that one speaks too, are, well, orthodox. The person in the book if I remember was just a pure simple hearted regular person who felt compelled to take up japa. of course it is japa, but an orthodox christian priest would not like sanskrit words like mantra or japa. Im always somewhat disappointed in the lawyer like approach of so many priest in christianity, ...only their interpratation is valid..but Im am not criticizing anyone's approach if thats what they cherish. one should do only what one feels in their heart. I think any type of japa to a holy diety is beneficial when your heart is in it. Ammachi, Laura Sylvis <laurasings> wrote: > > Namah Shivaya, > > This is the Jesus Prayer, "Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on > me, a sinner." > > I think there is some debate on whether it is to be used by just > anybody; I actually got into a mantra discussion with an Orthodox > Christian who maintained that the Jesus prayer was only for very serious > devotees or monastics, should only be undertaken when under the care of > a spiritual guide (ie, monk, priest, deacon, etc) and in the context of > a devout Christian practice (regular worship and communion, and study of > scriptures), and that its use would provoke the devil to throw as many > obstacles in their way as possible; that it certainly wasn't a "mantra" > in his opinion. > > (I would interpret that differently, but that's me. Understand that > this person's context is one where he feels that Amma may be a great > humanitarian and example of devotion but would cause him to stray from > the path of Christ.) > > Yes, this was just one person's opinion, but still. It's a person who > knows a lot more about Orthodox Christianity than I do, so I defer to > him somewhat. > > Perhaps Amma has initiated some devout Orthodox Christians into the > Jesus Prayer for their mantra. Has anyone heard of such a thing > happening? > > At any rate, I would personally tend, unless there is a strong desire in > the heart to repeat the Jesus Prayer, to be careful of something that > may be proscribed in its own tradition for use by just anyone. Amma > says we can simply repeat the Divine Name (in this case "Jesus" or > "Jesus Christ"), and I would feel "safer", if you will, in following Her > advice more closely, if the goal is receiving Her grace for our > sadhana. That's just me; your mileage may vary. > > (Swami Sivananda Radha, a disciple of Swami Sivananda, wrote a book > called "Mantras: Words of Power", in which she suggested chanting "Jesus > Christ" to the same raga as "Hari Om".) > > Hope this helps! > > Namah Shivaya, > Laura > > > > On Sunday, May 28, 2006, at 02:30 AM, ckeniley2003 wrote: > > > There is the classic guidebook to christian japa called the "way of > > the pilgrim" (i beleive) from the russian orthodox tradition...a > > christian monk used japa to achieve an ecstatic union with Christ. > > He used "Lord Jesus Christ, have mercy on me" I think this is > > correct, been a while since ive thought about this. > > > > Ammachi, val scalambra <vals_052@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Can anyone tell me of a Jesus Christ mantra and explain this > > concept of mantras to me please? > > > > > > Love to all, > > > Val > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2006 Report Share Posted May 28, 2006 The bracelets in Amma's Books say, "Om Christave Namah". Maybe someone else recalls all the benefits of japa. But, here are 2. Japa tunes you in with the Divine & purifies your mind. In an Awaken Children book, Amma told at least one devote, that mantra & selfless service were enough to bring him/her to the goal. Sweta How low will we go? Check out Messenger’s low PC-to-Phone call rates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2006 Report Share Posted May 28, 2006 hope this may help one of AMMAs darling chldren...the name Jesus means SAVIOR and it comes from the hebrew or galiiean aramaic word YASHUA.YASHUA also means savior.SAVIOR as in saved by HIS GRACE. remembering that we are saved by GRACE AND GRACE ALONE and chanting the name that represents that is a powerful mantra in itself.the first mantra JESUS gave us was JESUS,just as the first one that AMMA gave us was AMMA... no matter what mantra AMMA may give this child ,the one mantra that will always mean the most to his heart...is AMMA.even when we are not aware that we are chanting, we chant AMMA.everything we do or say revolves around the name or mantra AMMA...this is the same thing that happens with JESUS..Christains even say "IN THE NAME OF JESUS",we do everything....thats because the NAME JESUS is the closest name or mantra to their hearts...the name JESUS represents ALL-POWER for a Christan so why would they chant something else? hope this child has served effectively.love you... >Laura Sylvis <laurasings (AT) (DOT) ca> >Ammachi >Ammachi >Re: Re: Benefits of Japa/ Jesus mantra >Sun, 28 May 2006 09:10:40 -0400 > >Namah Shivaya, > >This is the Jesus Prayer, "Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on >me, a sinner." > >I think there is some debate on whether it is to be used by just >anybody; I actually got into a mantra discussion with an Orthodox >Christian who maintained that the Jesus prayer was only for very serious >devotees or monastics, should only be undertaken when under the care of >a spiritual guide (ie, monk, priest, deacon, etc) and in the context of >a devout Christian practice (regular worship and communion, and study of >scriptures), and that its use would provoke the devil to throw as many >obstacles in their way as possible; that it certainly wasn't a "mantra" >in his opinion. > >(I would interpret that differently, but that's me. Understand that >this person's context is one where he feels that Amma may be a great >humanitarian and example of devotion but would cause him to stray from >the path of Christ.) > >Yes, this was just one person's opinion, but still. It's a person who >knows a lot more about Orthodox Christianity than I do, so I defer to >him somewhat. > >Perhaps Amma has initiated some devout Orthodox Christians into the >Jesus Prayer for their mantra. Has anyone heard of such a thing >happening? > >At any rate, I would personally tend, unless there is a strong desire in >the heart to repeat the Jesus Prayer, to be careful of something that >may be proscribed in its own tradition for use by just anyone. Amma >says we can simply repeat the Divine Name (in this case "Jesus" or >"Jesus Christ"), and I would feel "safer", if you will, in following Her >advice more closely, if the goal is receiving Her grace for our >sadhana. That's just me; your mileage may vary. > >(Swami Sivananda Radha, a disciple of Swami Sivananda, wrote a book >called "Mantras: Words of Power", in which she suggested chanting "Jesus >Christ" to the same raga as "Hari Om".) > >Hope this helps! > >Namah Shivaya, >Laura > > > >On Sunday, May 28, 2006, at 02:30 AM, ckeniley2003 wrote: > > > There is the classic guidebook to christian japa called the "way of > > the pilgrim" (i beleive) from the russian orthodox tradition..a > > christian monk used japa to achieve an ecstatic union with Christ. > > He used "Lord Jesus Christ, have mercy on me" I think this is > > correct, been a while since ive thought about this. > > > > Ammachi, val scalambra <vals_052 wrote: > > > > > > > > > Can anyone tell me of a Jesus Christ mantra and explain this > > concept of mantras to me please? > > > > > > Love to all, > > > Val > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owakentanka Posted June 17, 2010 Report Share Posted June 17, 2010 OM ! I had practiced the Jesus prayer for a little while before receiving a Jesus mantra from Ammachi. So I don't think she would give the Jesus prayer out. The priest saying that the Jesus prayer is not a mantra.. is both true and false. Its doesn't fit the concrete definition of a mantra, because its more based on the conception.. have mercy.. Its also suppose to be only meditated and chanted to the heart. However the results are still the same as a mantra.. But at the same time, I believe Ramana's Maharshis Parable of the mantra plays an important role.. (I'll paraphrase for I don't remeber exactly) Maharshi "One day a King of the land wanted to learn of mantras, so he called his servants in and told them to find the man who could teach him some. THey found a man who was known to have practiced them, and was told by the king iniate me. The man said that he was not of the stature to do such things. The king furious, made him leave and found someone who told him what the words were. He made this man come back and said HA! I learned them anyway! The man replied well, it won't do you much good. The king angry demanded an explination. So the man told one of his guards to arrest the king. They were both taken aback, the man kept telling the guard to arrest the king, even though the guard woudlnt'. Finally the King furious told the guard to arrest this man. He did so, the man started laughing, he said, just as I had not the authority to arrest you, so be it the same with the mantra...." Anyway. Here are some christian mantras .. Om Christave Namah Om Namah Chistaya Yesu Yesu Jai Jai Namo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
satwagunam Posted June 25, 2010 Report Share Posted June 25, 2010 I have never heard the concept of mantras in any abrahamic religions. Mantras as such does not have power. Power is the mind of the person who has siddhi of the mantra. So the mantra diksha has to be given by a person who has attained sidhi. Otherwise it is just another word like what i am writing here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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