Guest guest Posted January 6, 2000 Report Share Posted January 6, 2000 > > > > > > The "Dr. Frog's" within ISKCON do not wish to accept these > > > instructions of Srila Prabhupada... they will protest that we do not > > > know what Srila Prabhupada meant here... or that Srila Prabhupada was > > > only talking about 1973 and not 2000... > > > > > > I say "balderdash"! This "dharma", "duties" that Srila Prabhupada > > > describes here is "sanatana dharma"; it is meant for all times & all > > > circumstances! > > > > Why did he then introduce something else than that? > > > > I mean if the time place and circumstances didn't matter. Why did he > > send women on the streets, send their children to gurukula at the age of > > five, seperate women from their husbands in order that husbands should > > continue preaching? Why did he introduce the movement in which everybody > > should be kind of sannyasi? > > Prabhu, I really think that you are here preaching something against > > what Srila Prabhupada had himself introduced in ISKCON. > > With all due respect... I think that you are mistaken. > > In the west the mixing was already there; Srila Prabhupada did not > "introduce" it. > > And if your personal opinion is the standard, then what Srila Prabhupada > wrote in the Purport of SB 7.12.8... should be thrown out? > > "Unnecessary association with women, even with one’s mother, sister or > daughter, is strictly prohibited. This is human civilization. A > civilization that allows men to mix unrestrictedly with women is an animal > civilization. In Kali-yuga, people are extremely liberal, but mixing with > women and talking with them as equals actually constitutes an uncivilized > way of life." > > I think you should change the way you think. If you think that you wish > to be a "shiksha" disciple of Srila Prabhupada. > > Kindly open the Seventh Canot of Srimad Bhagavatam to verify if what I've > "cut & pasted" here is there... and then "change". > > Why should you be "Sraddha devi dasi" if you have no "Shraddha" (faith) in > the teachings of Srila Prabhupada? > > > > > In times of emergency, certain vedic rules can be ignored. A > > > > brahmana can act as a kshatriya and vice versa or a woman might act > > > > as temple president. If she does a good job and the men under her > > > > have no problem with it and she does not engage in illicit > > > > relations, then what is the harm? It is probably less harmful than > > > > closing the temple for good. > > > > > > Prabhuji... In the passage from SP's purport in SB 1.10.16 Srila > > > Prabhupada advocates "pardaa". What do you think that means? > > > > > > How can a women, who is following the "pardaa" (which literally means > > > a "curtain" or "veil") system act as a TP? "Pardaa" means not mixing > > > in public & general society. > > > > > You see, you are again preaching something against things which Srila > > Prabhupada introduced. Prabhupada put women together with men in the > > same temple. Where is then question of not mixing? They are already > > living in the same building. > > So the question is one of sincerity. Those who are sincere will accept > the teachings of shastras and follow them. Those who don't... kindly > consult the Bhagavad-gita 16.19, 20...23 & 24... > > "He who discards scriptural injunctions and acts according to his own > whims attains neither perfection, nor happiness, nor the supreme > destination." Dear unborn, twice, trice, multipleborn brahmanas, as well as human, subhuman, animals and even frogs ;o)... I was thinking about this quote war. Does it not seem to you that Prabhupada simply gave both parties enough references to keep all this variety of life forms on his Noahs Ark? There is always vedic rules there and the mercy of Lord Caitanya. asva ghosh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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