Guest guest Posted July 12, 2000 Report Share Posted July 12, 2000 To, Senior devotees of ISKCON, Dear Vaisnavas, Hare Krsna. Please accept my humble obeisances. All Glories to Srila Prabhupada. I have reading some messages posted by different devotees on the present situation in ISKCON. Among them is a message I received from "David Bruce Hughes" <dbhughes (AT) mindspring (DOT) com> entitled 'GBC should resign' and signed by Dasanudas. Also I read HH Bhakti Vikasa Swami messages in this regard. I also read messages from Raghunatha Anudasa & Rocana dasa. I am posting the relevant extracts from all these messages below. Frankly speaking, after reading the messages (which I have posted below) I am quite confused. I do not know what can be the answers to the points raised by these devotees or whether they are right or wrong. I beg at the lotus feet of all the senior assembled devotees to kindly read these messages and enlighten me and remove my confusion. As a neophyte devotee in this movement, my only way of solving my confusion is to seek the guidance of senior devotees. And that is what I am doing. I feel this confusion may also be there in the minds of many devotees in ISKCON. But they may not be able to ask for clarification. So replies to this message will not only help in solving my confusion but also of many others. This is my humble opinion. Vaisnava dasabhas Nayana-ranjana das _____________________________ ____ GBC should resign by Dasanudas (I have taken the liberty to omit some things which I felt were a little offensive) Dear devotees of ISKCON, Please accept my humble obeisances; all glories to Srila Prabhupada! Now a great public accusation has been made against the principal members of the ISKCON GBC. We all know the sordid details of this great court case. The reputation of ISKCON and even of Srila Prabhupada has come under a shadow of suspicion. The topmost leaders of the Society stand accused of neglect and abuse of children. According to Srila Prabhupada, a leader who is under suspicion for wrongdoing is duty-bound to resign: Srila Prabhupada: "...Yad yad acarati sresthah lokas tad anuvartate. If the leaders are perfect, then the citizens will be perfect. If the leaders are rascals... Just like in your country, now your president is caught up. Just see. Such an exalted post is occupied by a person who is subjected to so many criticisms. Why? 'The Caesar's wife must be above suspicion.' There is a... The king or the president, why he should be under suspicion? And if he is under suspicion, then immediately he should resign, 'Oh, people are now suspecting.' But this these rascals will not resign. You see? Just see how much our leaders are polluted. He has been charged with so many things. Why he? Everyone is. He is weak; therefore he has been caught up. That's all. He is not so perfect diplomat. Otherwise he would have not been caught up." [Lecture 12/15/73 LA] This instruction directly applies to the current situation. The principal GBC members, many of whom are early disciples of Srila Prabhupada, 'Caesar's wives,' are already under suspicion for many mistakes. They are thereby disgraced and must therefore resign. Otherwise, how can they continue to pretend to represent Srila Prabhupada? Srila Prabhupada's clear instruction is that leaders who are under suspicion have lost the respectability they require to perform their duty; therefore, unless and until they can clear themselves of the charges in court, to maintain the reputation of the society and of their spiritual master they must resign. Srila Prabhupada: "So the leaders must be perfect. Therefore, according to Vedic civilization, at least three persons in the society... The first: the priest or the spiritual master, who are engaged in teaching people about religiosity, he must be perfect, above suspicion. Similarly, public leader, he must be also above suspicion. A brahmana... Brahmana means priest also. He must be above suspicion. And the king must be above suspicion. Then things will go on." Only one whose reputation is above suspicion can hold such a responsible post as guru, brahmana, teacher or king. Otherwise, according to Srila Prabhupada, merely by the suspicion of wrongdoing he becomes unqualified. Srila Prabhupada implies that if the responsible leader comes under suspicion, they cannot go on with their duties. Therefore the GBCs who stand accused in the child-abuse court case must resign. Srila Prabhupada: "But there is no such restriction. Nowadays it is the days of vote. Any rascal, if he gets vote somehow or other, then he acquires the exalted post. That is also written in the Srimad-Bhagavatam, that in the Kali-yuga there will be no consideration who is fit to occupy the exalted post of presidentship or royal throne. Simply somehow or other, by hook and crook, he'll occupy the seat. Therefore people are suffering. It is not... Nowadays, in democratic days, the government by the people, government for the people. So if the government is by the people, yes, you select your representative. If you are a fool, then you will select another fool." So many representatives have been elected to the GBC by vote, and similarly the GBC has elected gurus by vote, without actual consideration of qualifications. And so many fell down or deviated from Srila Prabhupada's order. Now many if not most of these leaders are under suspicion, therefore the people they are supposed to serve are suffering. Who would want to be a member of ISKCON these days? How embarrassing! Therefore the members of the ISKCON temples should organize themselves and vote against these GBCs, or be exposed by Srila Prabhupada as fools. Lord Ramachandra banished Sita because of the suspicion by the people that She had become unchaste. Even this suspicion was incorrect, but there was no way to remove it from the people's minds. So to serve the people under his administration He had to banish Her from the palace. Therefore it is the duty of ISKCON to also ask these leaders to resign. Srila Prabhupada: "So Bhagavata says, sva-vid-varaha ustra-kharaih samstutah purusah pasuh. Anyone who is not a devotee, Krsna conscious devotee of God, then he may be in a exalted post, but he is praised by some people who are exactly like sva. Sva means dog, and vid-varaha means pigs who eat stool. Sva-vid-varaha. Vid-varaha. And ustra, ustra means camel. And ustra-kharaih. Khara means ass. Sva-vid-varahostra-kharaih. If a person who is not a devotee, he is praised or he is exalted, then the praisers, the persons who is praising him, he must be among these animals: dog, camel, pig and ass. Srila Prabhupada: "So the whole population is like that, like dog, like camel, like ass and like vid-varaha, pig, the stool-eater, the whole population, at the present moment. So he must elect another big animal who is also in this category. Because he has no knowledge. If you take votes from the camels, to whom he will vote? Another big camel, that's all. If you take votes from the dog, then whom he will elect? Another big dog. Therefore, anyone who is not a devotee of God, Krsna, he is either of these animals. And if he is praised, it is to be understood that he is being praised by the similar type of animals. So if we remain sva-vid-varahostra-khara, then we must elect another big sva-vid-varahostra-khara. So how there can be good situation of the state? It is not possible. Therefore the public must be educated so that they may not elect another big dog or big camel or big ass to the exalted post. It is the public's fault. Nowadays it is democratic days. So why should you complain against such-and-such person or president? You have elected him, and now you find fault with him. So it was your fault that you selected such a rascal, sva-vid-varahostra. It is very right conclusion." The devotees who live in ISKCON temples should be educated so that they understand the full extent of their constitutional powers. By the constitution of the ISKCON temple corporations, the members have the legal right to elect the leadership. This is a little-known fact, but it is a law. They also have the right to vote to impeach that leadership if they lose their qualification as leaders. Legally, they have voted to accept the disappointed leaders by failing to vote them out. That is, unless the members assert their right to vote it is assumed they wish to follow the appointed system. Now it is proven without a doubt that the GBC did not follow Srila Prabhupada's orders regarding the management of the Gurukulas, and on top of that they failed to remedy the situation for over twenty years, bringing themselves, ISKCON and even Srila Prabhupada under the public disgrace of suspicion and trial by the legal system. If furthermore they fail to do the honorable thing for the society and resign from their exalted posts, we can understand they are still not able to follow Srila Prabhupada's clear instructions. Therefore they deserve to be impeached. Srila Prabhupada: "Yes. This was the system, that one must retire. Just like at the present moment, although people are asking the president that 'You retire, you resign,' he is not resigning, obstinate. Because he knows, 'This is the first and last chance. I am not going to be elected again. So stick to the post and take as much money as possible.' That's all." [Lecture, 12/17/73 LA] The GBC will not resign, they will stick to their posts as long as they possibly can. Now the consequences of their actions threaten to destroy the entire ISKCON society. Therefore the only chance to protect Srila Prabhupada's reputation is a general rebellion by vote of the members of ISKCON against the GBC. They have frustrated Srila Prabhupada's orders in management and failed to maintain his institution. Now they deserve to be removed. Srila Prabhupada: "...And without God consciousness, there cannot be any good qualities. Just like President Nixon. He's exalted. He is occupying such exalted position, but public is criticizing like anything. Hm? And he's still not leaving that post. Unless he's forced. So harav abhaktasya... Is that a very good quality? He's publicly elected president. If public (is) accusing him in so many ways, he should have (said), 'All right, if you don't like, I resign.' But no. So where is the good quality? There is no good quality. Because he has no sense of God consciousness. So without sense of God consciousness, nobody can possess any good quality. That is impossible." [Lecture, 7/23/73, London] The GBCs cannot hide anymore behind the old excuse that Srila Prabhupada appointed them, therefore whatever they do is perfect. Here Srila Prabhupada clearly states that if a leader who has been accused does not resign, he is devoid of all good qualities, and even devoid of God consciousness. The devotees should assert their rights under the law, at least in the United States, and immediately hold elections to force the GBC to resign as managers and trustees of all ISKCON properties. This is the only chance to save Srila Prabhupada's legacy from total destruction. If after the prosecution and defense presentations in the court, where all the details of the GBCs' intransigence will become public knowledge, the jury finds the defendants culpable, and if they did not resign when the case first began, this arrogant attitude will influence the judge and jury to increase the penalty. A similar thing happened in the case the Turley firm recently won against the Catholic Church. None of the church leaders who covered up the abuse resigned, and partly because of this insolence the damages were in the tens of millions of dollars for only two victims. The ISKCON case may ultimately have over 1,000 victims. The GBC resignations will save ISKCON millions of dollars and win support from the court and all right-thinking people. I personally stand to gain nothing from the GBCs' resignations, since I came to the conclusion long ago that ISKCON was finished because the management no longer represented Srila Prabhupada. Therefore I am already involved with another sanga and have preaching activities totally unconnected to ISKCON. But as a loyal disciple of Srila Prabhupada I would like to see his honor saved by his devotees doing the right thing in the current crisis. The right thing is to use the constitutional power of member's vote to cast out the false leaders who cannot follow their spiritual master's instructions, and change the management system in ISKCON back to what Srila Prabhupada wanted, with independent temples owned and managed independently, and a GBC that oversees spiritual standards by traveling, preaching and encouraging without draconian centralized managerial powers. At this moment the chance exists to right many wrongs. What a regret it will be in the future if we fail to grasp this great opportunity to please Srila Prabhupada! Your servant, Dasanudas _____________________________ ____ >From HH Bhakti Vikasa Swami The status of the GBC in the eyes of the general devotees is rock bottom and could hardly go lower. A far cry from the Prabhupada days, when GBC men were practically worshipped. Those who are responsible for this demise should kindly accept moral responsibility, or be forced to do so. Unless punishment for abuse is extended beyond that of child abusers, injustice will be done in the name of justice and reform will not go to the roots. At present, deviations by GBC members are simply not taken seriously enough. I was told by a GBC member that another GBC man recently slept in a van with a brahmacarini, and regularly bought flowers for her. But no action is taken. There is no accountability for the GBC, and thus they can do whatever they like and get away with it. In extreme cases, they may get a temporary suspension from initiating, which they don't follow anyway. This is abuse. The lack of character and moral responsibility in our top leaders created an atmosphere in which child abuse flourished and was allowed to continue unabated until some ex-abusees got vocal about it. Child abuse is the tip of an iceberg of improper behavior that has led to massive lack of confidence in Iskcon and its leaders, and mass desertions. If Iskcon leaders are serious to truly restore the good name and missionary dynamism of the society, the first step is that they must have enough courage and character to own up to their mistakes and be prepared to take the consequences for them. I am not in favor of punishing devotees, but if at all there is to be punishment, then it is unfair that xxxxxxxxx and a few others are punished for past sins, while the leaders who presided over the whole catastrophe and whose policies have caused untold distress to thousands of devotees, not only go scot-free, but continue to enjoy the honor and position of great saints. Does not big position bring with it big responsibility? Should not the xxxxxxxx GBCs accept responsibility concomitant to the unparalleled honor, facilities and personal finances that have been bestowed on them for so many years? Even in karmi corporations and governments, it is not uncommon for top leaders to resign when subordinates make major blunders, especially blunders that are injurious to people's lives and well-being. Even if the leaders were unaware of their subordinates' malpractices, they take moral responsibility for it. The logical extension of this should be a sincere desire to make amends, to reform and to start a new era of zero tolerance for all forms of abuse, especially that perpetrated by leaders, whose moral responsibility is greatest and who are therefore more guilty for any crimes they have committed. Several top leaders in Iskcon have abused their positions and scorned the faith placed in them, by deviating from the high standard desired by Srila Prabhupada. It is therefore in order to also take retroactive action against Iskcon leaders who propagated erroneous and highly damaging speculations such as zonal acarya-ism, premature gopi-bhava etc. Those who deviated from their initiation vows by failing to regularly chant 16 rounds, or who engaged in grossly sinful activities after initiation, should also have punitive action taken against them. Child abusers are banned from giving class, leading kirtan, initiating, or holding any leadership position, and the same measures should be taken against those who have abused their leadership roles. We are informed that child abusees often feel placated if they see real measures being taken against abusers, and if abusers express genuine remorse. Conversely, they feel disgusted and reject Iskcon if they see gross offenders carrying on as if nothing had happened. The same applies in the case of abusers and abusees of all types. If we accept the concept of psychological abuse, then there is hardly a devotee outside the top ranks of this movement who was not abused -- especially in the zonal acarya era. Thousands of devotees who came to ISKCON with hope, later left or were driven away in bitterness. Excesses by leaders even led to cases of murder and suicide. The grossest manifestations of abuse mostly fell on the weaker sections of the society, namely the women and children. The leaders of ISKCON are surely responsible for the ethos of abuse they created and presided over. Child abusers in ISKCON may be victims of misguidance by leaders more than they are criminals. If we were really remorseful about abuse, we would not punish only child abusers, but abused of all categories. We show no interest in coming to terms with, for instance, the shattering abuse that has been perpetrated in the name of guruship. In light of the profound, all-pervasive abuse that took place throughout our society, to target only child abusers is biased and hypocritical. Thus, while campaigning against abuse, we perpetrate more abuse, all in the name of justice. Reports of child abuse investigations take much care to persuade us of the fairness of the proceedings. Yet there is inherent unfairness in pinpointing only child abusers. If there is to be justice and retribution, let it be at all levels. Why are only child abusers being punished? It is illogical to think that we can contain the legal effects of abuse by punishing a few individuals. The child abuse storm may seem like a big problem, but it is only a warning of worse things to come. Today the ex-gurukulis are threatening legal action, but tomorrow there may be thousands of devotees suing for psychological abuse. We will be as incompetent to rebut their accusations as we are with the ex-gurukulis, because their claims are true. Our movement has a horrible history of abuse. Srila Prabhupada made a house for the whole world to live in, but we have made it uncomfortable for anyone to live in, including ourselves. We are all collectively responsible, and the leaders more so. We needed a mass catharsis years ago, and it may not still be too late if we dare to look into our hearts and be honest before Krsna about our massive failure. But will it happen? Unlikely. The GBC are the perpetrators. How then, are they going to put themselves on trial? They have already been judged and tried by thousands of devotees, who have voted with their feet by walking out. But the GBC goes on with its mutual lauding and platitudes, assuring each other that everything is basically all right, and that we're really doing a good job of cleaning up the house. Dear GBC men: is it possible that you open your eyes? The house is in worse shape than anyone could have imagined. There are many angry people both inside and outside it, and they can no longer be easily fooled or appeased. Unless and until there is a real change of heart, and a genuine attempt to overcome the terrible mistakes of the past, those angry people are not going to let us go. We will be smashed again and again until the name of Srila Prabhupada's Iskcon will be universally shamed and scorned. In the absence of sincere apologies from anyone for the horrendous and massive abuse of the past, let's get on the case of all abusers, not only child abusers. (BTW the same thing is going on today--devotees known to be spiritually sick are allowed to go on initiating. Is this not abuse of the prospective disciples?) However, I maintain that if we are really serious about cleaning out abuse, we should do so at all levels. It is imbalanced, at best, to come down heavy on child abusers while neglecting the widescale abuse that pervaded our whole society. If I am cynical, I am not alone in my cynicism. Everywhere, devotees are expressing discontent with the way things have been going on for the last so many years. Many senior leaders, including temple presidents, sannyasis, and even GBC men, have expressed to me their discontent with the state of the movement and with the policies and attitudes of the GBC. I am not one to go looking for tales of discontent, but nevertheless hear enough of them to understand that there is something basically out of sync in our movement. Many devotees have resigned themselves to living and working in an organization in which they feel uncomfortable, but feel helpless to change. My personal experiences in trying to communicate matters to the GBC have been most discouraging. In response to my recent postings, a senior and respected devotee wrote to me: > I very much enjoyed and appreciated reading this from you, Maharaja. I > share your anger. My specific service is ****, but I completely agree that > there is deep corruption and hypocrisy in ISKCON leadership, and > practically the ISKCON so-called leaders are the only ones who don't see > it, and thus devotees more and more do not try to take shelter in the GBC, > as the GBC body does not command respect, and in fact has become a laughingstock, at best, and perhaps an abject tragedy. Hare Krsna. _____________________________ _____ From The Inevitable Gurukula Lawsuit by Rocana dasa Until the child abuse issue -- and this one is likely to bring focus to many of the seemingly less serious activities. The leadership of ISKCON obviously never considered the future devastation that could be wrought by the gurukula abuse issue. We're now well past the point of safe return, and are left to consider what it is that Krsna himself is now teaching all those who care to learn. If they were honest, they would simply have admitted a long time ago that ISKCON was immediately divided into various different guru-doms. These factions had a loose alliance with one another, and saw the advantage of flying the ISKCON flag. Consequently, the legal system can now use this facade to prove that legal links existed between many of the temples, and they can thus attack the whole organization. The GBC's futile passing of a multitude of unenforceable laws can now be shown as legal proof that it was all one organization, ruled by an entrenched oligarchy. ISKCON's leaders did not do as Srila Prabhupada mandated. The GBC were instructed to become saintly persons, preaching and traveling from temple to temple to see that spiritual standards were maintained. Instead, they immersed themselves in creating a complex system of government that served no real purpose. They were simply a group of individuals pretending to be in control. They passed laws and issued dictates, and gave the legal perception that they were in control of the entire movement, which wasn't at all true. For this reason, I believe that they deserve much of the blame for what we're about to see unfold. Srila Prabhupada's original plan was to set-up individual temples, overseen by non-administrative GBC. He knew that we were likely to make mistakes, and wanted the ramifications to be localized, so that each temple got the results of their own activities, rather than all the temples having to bear a collective burden. The situation we now face is a perfect example of the risk that should have been avoided. _____________________________ _____ From Why I'm Joining the Lawsuit By Raghunatha Anudasa I have a dozen letters asking how and why guru-kuli's are blaming Prabhupada. The answer is obvious, the GBC and the devotees at large have failed to properly address this issue much as they have the other concerns of guru-kulis. The best lawsuit preparation is to make a chronology of Prabhupada on guru-kula. Let there be at least one voice to represent Prabhupada. For us, a chronological account of Prabhupada on guru-kula would be a great way to prepare for this lawsuit and media barrage. Don't waste time condemning guru-kulis. Let's put our energies into this Prabhupada - guru - kula, chronology. A chronology will reveal such issues as the progression from Prabhupada's "instructions" as "show the stick," to the stick becoming a 2 by 10 bat for whipping us. To do a good job will take the help of devotees like Dayananda, Hirinyagarbha aka Jagadananda and Dhanurdhara. It will also require some resources. _____________________________ _____ Dhira Govinda Prabhu, CPO: I'm in agreement with all the points made by Bhakti Vikas Maharaja. The ISKCON society should show intolerance for all sorts of abuse. Parents are certainly culpable to a large extent for the child abuse that went on, and many parents have expressed understanding of this and deep regret, and many gurukulis are very angry at their parents. Many Vaisnavas are very angry at many ISKCON leaders because of mistreatment in various forms, and thus increasingly Vaisnavas are choosing to serve Srila Prabhupada ouside of the organization. Hare Krsna. _____________________________ __ Prabhupada Centennial Survey The Rochford Report A Summary of the Final Report by E. Burke Rochford, Jr. Middlebury College Middlebury, VT, USA As the GBC concluded at its 1996 special meeting in Abentheur, "ISKCON's house is on fire." The movement faces serious social problems. Devotees are dissatisfied, confused about their responsibilities and hampered in achieving their full potentials. Everyone is suffering, leaders as well as rank-and-file. Women, children and cows are unprotected and abused. Many who for years dedicated themselves to preaching and devotional service are now outsiders. Others are "hanging on" with diminishing hope of finding a secure, decent life in ISKCON. Others who should be free to be models of renunciation and spiritual leadership are perceived to be entangled with money and power. (Social Development Report, ISKCON Commission For Social Development February 1998) Summary of Major Findings [...] The following represents a summary of the major findings presented in the Prabhupada Centennial Report. Interested readers should consult the final report for a detailed presentation of the findings - including both qualitative and statistical data. ( There is a striking lack of trust between ISKCON members and the movement's leadership, as well as between devotees themselves. Survey respondents across regions expressed the view that there is a lack of honest and open communication between devotees; that impersonalism has been allowed to dominate devotee relations in place of friendship, respect, and caring. The findings presented also demonstrate that a lack of authority (and a related lack of trust) attributed to the gurus and/or the GBC institution has had major consequences for devotees' commitments to ISKCON (full-time, congregational, and former ISKCON members alike). ( Many devotee respondents expressed the view that ISKCON suffers from poor management and that leaders are not always responsive to those they serve. There is reason to suspect that this only breeds mistrust and a sense that local as well as regional leaders are out of touch with the needs and lives of the average member. [...] ( Related to the demise of religious authority has been the apparent decline of GBC authority among some portions of ISKCON's membership. Many congregational members for example expressed the belief that they have been left with little input in how ISKCON is governed. As a result many felt that the GBC had little real relevance to their lives as devotees. This is perhaps most pronounced in the area of the GBC's failure to address the needs of householders and their children. A sizeable percentage of ISKCON's congregational members believed that a representational form of government would help broaden the variety of viewpoints found on the GBC. Full-time members, congregational members and former ISKCON devotees alike expressed the view that the GBC had not gone far enough in its efforts to control the gurus and the guru institution. (a) The lack of employment opportunities within ISKCON. As the findings demonstrate, a large portion of ISKCON's worldwide membership is working in conventional jobs. (b) Inadequate educational alternatives within ISKCON. Findings from the survey suggest that children, like their parents, are spending a good portion of their daily lives associating with non-devotees while attending schools outside of ISKCON's communities. As the evidence presented suggests, parents report that their children often grow up having few commitments to ISKCON and, more often than not, remain more or less uninvolved in the practice of sadhana-bhakti. While such a finding is hardly unusual, as many young people become estranged from their religious faith in adolescence, it still raises questions about ISKCON's future given the paucity of new adult recruits to the movement in at least some parts of the world. ( Of critical importance to the stability of ISKCON has been the erosion of traditional religious authority in the face of scandal and controversy involving ISKCON's gurus and sannyasis (see Rochford 1985,1998b; Tamal Krsna Goswami 1997). These very scandals have served to promote ritvik ideas, both within ISKCON's communities and among dissidents outside ISKCON's ranks. But even among devotees who reject the ritvik philosophy there still has been an effort to further elevate Prabhupada as the primary source of religious authority within ISKCON. In sum, the authority of the present gurus has been openly questioned and Srila Prabhupada has become the source of legitimate religious authority within ISKCON and the broader movement. Because of continuing scandal involving gurus, survey respondents expressed a desire to place strong bureaucratic controls on qualifications for becoming an ISKCON guru, and on the behavior and lifestyle of the gurus. Many respondents offered the view that the reform movement of the mid-1980s did not go far enough in placing adequate controls on the independent authority and power of ISKCON's gurus. _____________________________ _____ Dear Jayadvaita Maharaja, Please accept my humble obeisances. All glories to Srila Prabhupada. Your decision was wise and exemplary. I hope many others will follow your example, and let a younger generation take the helm of ISKCON. We old folks can be emeritus advisors. Traditionally, when a new administration takes over a government, senior officials appointed by the last administration submit resignations, to allow the new executive to put together a new team. So in that spirit, I will submit my resignation from the editorial board of BTG. If Nagaraja desires, I would be happy to continue in my previous capacity. But that decision should be his to make. 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