Guest guest Posted July 15, 2000 Report Share Posted July 15, 2000 It is good to hear from someone like Bhadra Govinda who has more faith in sadhu, sastra and guru rather than mundane standards of behavior and qualification. One question though: Since "every endeavor is covered by fault," how does a leader avoid falling into apparent material mistakes from time to time? It is the nature of the material world that one often finds himself in a situation where any course of action appears to be a mistake -- much like Arjuna's dilemma on the battlefield of Kurukshetra. So is it reasonable to expect a leader to resign when he makes his first mistake? In fact, this directly impacts the availability of leadership in ISKCON. To be a leader, you need skin as thick as ten elephant hides because there is always someone waiting to drag you down as soon as you make a slip. A really substantial ego helps too, so you can get up every morning and face another day of criticism. So you have to ask, what kind of person is willing to be a leader under such conditions? In these circumstances, you get the leaders you deserve. Perhaps this explains why those who are the most addicted to criticizing, never volunteer to assume responsibility for actually solving the problems -- standing up and saying "I can do better!" and doing it. I believe a more appropriate standard is a leader should remove himself if he finds he has been over-influenced by illusion and has intentionally acted in a seriously incorrect manner. Of course, if one becomes so illusion he can't understand his situation, then Prabhupada has given other processes for removal. But as we have understood from the debate about temple presidents, Prabhupada made it difficult to remove them. And he said the GBC secretaries are to serve for life. It is clear that some mistakes are to be tolerated. Otherwise, there will simply be no leaders, except every few hundred or few thousand years when Krishna sends the Uttama Adhikara from Vaikuntha. And even then, he is criticized. Bhadra.Govinda.JPS (AT) pamho (DOT) net [bhadra.Govinda.JPS (AT) pamho (DOT) net] Friday, July 14, 2000 8:21 AM Varnasrama development Re: Should the GBC Resign Dear and respected Vaishnavas, Hare Krsna. Please accept my humble obeisances. All Glories to Srila Prabhupada. I would like to make a few points on the text by "Dasanudas" a) This is another case of Srila Prabhupad's quotes being misused. b) The leaders must be above suspicion can be viewed in anothr way as--- the general praja must not doubt the leaders, just because they hear some inside/outside criticism. As members of ISKCON we must have faith (not blind faith) in the leadership of GBC. CC. Antya 3.11: "...Despite the *logic* that 'Caesar's wife must be above suspicion', a devotee should not be disturbed by the activities of his spiritual master and should not try to criticize him. A devotee should be *fixed* in the conclusion that the spiritual master cannot be subject to criticism and should never be considered equal to a common man. Even if there appears to be some discrepancy according to an imperfect devotee's estimation, the devotee should be fixed in the conviction that even if his spiritual master goes to the liquor shop, he is not a drunkard, rather he must have some purpose going there..." Srila Prabhupada does not say some body becomes unqualified just by some one's suspicion. One becomes unqualified by his own misdeeds or irresponsible actions, and not by some one's suspicion. A spiritual master does not become unqualified for sudden lack of faith in the disciple who is influenced by the external energy and material considerations. A sincere leader immediately resigns if he has made a mistake. The reason for resignation is not the suspicion of others but his own mistake. An insincere leader may go on forever, but the point is, atleast he must resign when his mistake is exposed. >Who would want to be a member of ISKCON these days? How embarrassing! I want to be a member of ISKCON and I walk around with out any inhibitions or embarrassment. This is simply because I still have faith in Srila Prabhupada, and his sincere disciples and granddisciples and wellwishers. And I personally know many who share my feelings. In my humble opinion, those leaders, who have not made any mistakes, and inspite of so many embarrassing mistakes that have taken place, which could not be checked, but have been still going on in the position of leadership, and sincerely trying to execute their responsibilities, just because of the faith they have in Srila Prabhupad's blessings, MUST NOT RESIGN. And every member of ISKCON should completely support such sincere leaders in this hour of need. I remember Vrtrasura's comments caling out his soldiers who were running away, leaving him alone to be attacked by Indra. The same words hold good to those of us members of ISKCON who *blindly* desert our leaders, and let the leaders be shot down, and we run away saving ourselves. Blind faith is not good. Similarly blind suspicion and criticism is also not good. At the same time those leaders who have been pretending MUST IMMEDIATELY RESIGN and accept their mistakes and by doing so they will get completely purified of their sins. ISKCON can never be polluted, just like Ganges, inspite of so many material things being dumped in her. Vrindavana or Navadvipa will not get polluted because there are some murders, or rapes going on in those holy places. The explanation is given by Lord Nityananda to Jiva Gosvami during Navadvipa Parikrama. Jiva Goswami: Many people live in Navadvipa, but why they are still unable to attain Krishna Bhakti? As they are staying in this dhama, how do offences still remain in them? (Jiva Goswami asks these questions after hearing all the glories of Navadvipa which is a place of Audarya, where offences do not act) Lord Nityananda: ..........Maya has eternally covered the dhama, with a film of dull matter. People who have no relationship with Krishna Caitanya simply live on top of that covering, blind to the real truth. Though one is thinking 'I am in Navadvipa' Praudha Maya happily keeps that person far away from the dhama. .... If that *spiritual* ISKCON was not there then I would not be writing this text today. Please forgive me and correct me if my above understanding is wrong. Your humble servant, Bhadra Govinda Das. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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