Guest guest Posted July 21, 2000 Report Share Posted July 21, 2000 Dear Bhagavat Dharma prabhu, PAMHO, AGTSP, You start by saying: <Your text is full of innuendo. I will try to answer your points without wasting everyone's time.> 1. Yet you do not even attempt to answer a *single* one of the 9 points I made. Rather it is you who simply replies with innuendo. After all it is you who started the innuendo by saying I was being used for God knows what purpose. Have you already forgotten how this discussion started. Is your memory so short and clouded? No wonder you are so confused about the guru issue. If you want to exchange insults then do not be surprised if I hit back. 2. I am not surprised that you avoided answering a single one of my 9 points since how can you answer them, when they are all true. For instance you avoid the issue of who is using you. This was your innuendo or ad-hominem against me, which I merely responded to by pointing out that I am financially independent, yet you have always preached on behalf of whoever has paid you. This is the truth is it not? Your silence on this point tells me you accept this point. 3. Also you have also not challenged my point that pointing out Bhakta Rupa prabhu's self-contradiction is a valid debating tactic. I asked you if you had taken the advice to take shelter of the holy name, and I see you have not responded. Am I to understand by this that you do not chant sixteen rounds a day? You talk speculatively of future problems and say: < This is a result of abandoning the authorised system set up by Srila Prabhupada.> Have you not yet read the July 9th directive? This was Srila Prabhupada's authorised system which was unauthorisedly terminated by the 'GBC'. You say: <Whatever your opinion about initiations and ritvik, according to Srila Prabhupada's instruction, you must accept the version of the GBC as the authorised version.> Where did Srila Prabhupada ever say the GBC could stop his authorised systems, and that we must all just accept it when they do? This is rubbish. The definition of the GBC is that they must not change or stop ANYTHING. Once they do, which they have, then by definition they are no longer the GBC as defined by Srila Prabhupada.Please try to catch up with the debate. You boldly state: <The mood that proceeds from you is just like the Zonal Acharya mood - that all problems can be solved simply by a few clever strokes here and there.> Yet it was the same 'senior Godbrothers' who spent so much time with Srila Prabhupada that instigated this bogus system was it not? So what was the use of their so-called seniority? And at that time you happily went along with it, just as you are going along with the current deviant, abusive and corrupt system. How do you sleep at night? You are the one who should resign rather than keep on preaching on behalf of a group of bogus unauthorised people who I have the displeasure of having to drag through court for their illegality. And these people you continue to give unquestioning support since they are paying your wages. That is the sad truth is it not? Therefore what value is your opinion since it is simply the result of towing whoever's party line brings home the pay check. I suggest you resign from your paid position so you can think for yourself for once. You are simply being used at the moment. ys, Adri Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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