Disgrace at the Manor...

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This is the first time I heard of the incicdent, and I live just near the

Manor, and was there this morning and heard nothing about the incident. I

don't doubt that it happened but I think it would be best to reserve

judgment until we hear what the Manor Management has to say and compare that

with what may well be an exaggerated report.

 

The Narayana Maharaja Followers' behaviour here near the Manor is going from

bad to worse. A small group of women behaved so badly that the Manor

management had no other choice but to reluctantly ban them just to keep the

peace. I won't go into the details here but the misbehaviour of these few

women included using an ISKCON temple for promoting a nonISKCON guru, NM,

and publicly cursing and swearing at ISKCON sannyasis, and so on.

 

If someone believes that NM is better than any of our ISKCON gurus and

sannyasis then they are entitled to that opinion. But they are not entitled

to FORCE that opinion upon anyone else, just as we can't go to any other

temple and FORCE Srila Prabhupada onto others. Such misbehaviour would be

very primitive to say the least.

 

My opinion is that anyone who is one hunderd per cent dedicated to Srila

Prabhupada and to spreading his ISKCON in exactly the way Srila Prabhupada

instructed us then he is indeed worshipable. Such association is the best of

all. Although ISKCON has its faults I constantly see among our ranks many,

many top level and grass roots devotees who are indeed worshipable by the

criteria of being totally surrendered to Srila Prabhupada.

 

NM is no doubt a great Vaisnava in his own circles but he does not I'm

afriad show all the symptoms of being one hundred per cent surrendered to

Srila Prabhupada. We have many Indian bodied gurus and sannyasis in ISKCON

who are totally ISKCONised, totally surrendered to Srila Prabhupada, but NM

can't seem to surrender himself at the lotus feets of Srila Prabhupada as

per the standard ISKCON way.

 

In ISKCON we just want to hear and associate with devotees who are

Prabhupadanugas, those who follow in the footprints of Srila Prabhupada.

Most ISKCON devotees don't want anyone else's ideas mixed into our Society.

And in spite of all ISKCON's defects one can go back to Godhead through

ISKCON in this very lifetime.

 

So the problem here at the Manor is that there are a few intensely angry

matajis trying to FORCE their opinions of NM into ISKCON; in the way the the

ritviks do, and the devotees don't want it, they only want Srila Prabhupada.

That's the overall situation here regarding NM.

 

Regarding the specifics of the incident, I'll make some inquiries from the

management and let you know.

 

ys

 

ada

 

> Does anyone know the truth about this embarrassing incident? It appears

> that after almost 30 years of devotional service, many so-called devotees

> simply behave like chandalas. I'm sure that both HH Narayana Maharaja and

> Srila Prabhupada are disgusted with the immature, Un-Vaishnava behavior

> that was displayed on both sides.

>

> Krishna states in Bhagavad-gita that, "My devotee is dear to everyone, and

> everyone is dear to him."

>

> The only conclusion that seems to apply to those involved in this disgrace

> is that they are NOT devotees, at least according to Lord Krishna's

> viewpoint!

>

> yours in service, vaiyasaki dasa...

>

>

>

>

> Protest against ISKCON Hare Krishna Temple

>

> On Sunday the 27th of August, a protest was held outside the main gates of

> Bhaktivedanta Manor, the main Hare Krishna temple in the UK under the

> auspices of ISKCON, the International Society for Krishna Consciousness.'

>

> Mainly women and children participated in the protest. They were

> protesting the decision of the temple management to ban them from

> worshipping at Bhaktivedanta Manor. The police left the protest after they

> were assured from members of the Bhaktivedanta Manor management at the

> gates that everything would remain peaceful. As soon as the police and the

> members of the press left, the same ISKCON management members at the gate

> beckoned to a group of twelve young Indian men who were waiting further up

> the road on the grounds of Bhaktivedanta Manor. These men came down to the

> gates, surrounded the women and children. Taunting and swearing at them,

> the men forcibly took their placards, smashing them and began tearing up

> their leaflets.

>

> The children were age 14 and under. The children were badly shaken but

> only suffered from minor injuries. Due to a passerby's intervention, the

> young men backed away from the crying women and children. He called the

> police and kindly waited until the police returned by which time the

> attackers had run back into the grounds of Bhaktivedanta Manor. Although

> management members stood and watched the attack, they told the police that

> they saw nothing. The management refused the ladies entry onto the

> property with the police to point out the attackers saying that we would

> have to get a court order to do so. There were around 15,000 people who

> attended the temple that day. One placard was saved by one 14 year old

> girl who ran and hid with it in a hedge.'

>

> Ironically, that one remaining placard said "BHAKTIVEDANTA MANOR HIDES THE

> TRUTH-WOMEN AND CHILDREN-ABUSED, WOMEN AND CHILDREN-BANNED. The women and

> children courageously carried on the protest with that placard and

> distributed around 3000 leaflets despite their cuts and bruises. The

> police apologised for leaving the protest and remained with them until

> 7:30pm with no further incident.'