Guest guest Posted September 18, 2000 Report Share Posted September 18, 2000 Dear Ajamila, PAMHO AGTSP I asked you to state where I had said I would: 'kill gentle vaisnavas" Yet you have yet to produce a single place where I have said I will 'kill gentle vaisnavas". Rather having been exposed as not being able to back up your lies - you are forced to simply ask QUESTIONS. You have simply quoted me saying that I would defend myself from thugs who would kill US. What does that have to do with 'killing gentle vaisnavas". Or are you saying that if thugs try to kill us - we should not shoot back - in which case why do Mayapura have lots of Guns? So you are still exposed as lying. You can only quote my speaking of gunman defending themselves against attack - which is permissible - otherwise why are there MANY guns in Mayapura also? So I ask you again - state where did I say I would "kill gentle vaisnavas"? I have proven I have said nothing of the kind - rather I have only warned that we would defend ourselves from threats to kill us. Indeed the only time I use the word 'kill' is in reference to THUGS doing that to US - indeed that's what you quote me saying below. Everyone can read what you have quoted - and there is no plan to "kill gentle vaisnavas" - only a plan of defence against those try to KILL US. That is why in your embarrassment - you are forced to ASK QUESTIONS - since the quotes do not state what you claim I said. So - put up or apologise. You have a habit of being wrong and then because you are so dull-headed it takes you at least a week to realise. The same thing happened when you unfairly attacked Madhusudani and then only a week later did you dull head realise your mistake - and then you were forced to apologise. You are doing the same again. Everyone can read for themselves that you have not provided any evidence that matches what you claim I said. So save yourself some embarrassment and apologise sooner rather than later. And BTW - please note how Hari Sauri who also claimed something similar has stayed quiet - even though he does not have the gentlemanly quality to apologise at least he is not as shamefaced as you to continue repeating the lie. YS, ADRI - Adri Dharan (das) ACBSP (Calcutta) <Adri.Dharan.ACBSP (AT) pamho (DOT) net> <kk.irm (AT) cwcom (DOT) net> Sunday, September 17, 2000 3:21 PM reply to Ajamila (bloodbath) > ---------- Forwarded Message ---------- > > Text COM:3548783 (102 lines) > Ajamila (das) ACBSP (Goloka Books - UK) > 16-Sep-00 14:17 > India (Continental Committee) Open (Forum) [3051] > Reference: Text COM:3547408 by Adri Dharan (das) ACBSP (Calcutta) > reply to Ajamila (bloodbath) > --------------------------- > > Dear Ajamila, > > > > PAMHO AGTSP > > > > You say I made: > > > > "threats to kill gentle Vaisnavas" > > > > Please point out the EXACT place where I have done this, or apologise in > > front of all the devotees for your lying - that is if you have any shame > > left over your continual lying. So that is both you and Hari Sauri who > > have been exposed for their lying. > > > > If you do NOT provide the exact quote where I have said this, and instead > > the evade the issue with some just another attack - then you will have > > been exposed as a liar. > > > > Thank you. > > > > > > ys, > > > > > > adri > > I draw attention here to your following statements extracted from your > letter below: > > "He will not take any action unless he has approval from at least a > handful of bureau members. Otherwise they will have blood on their > hands." > > Blood on their hands? > > "But unless Dayarama's hired hands are prepared to lay down > their lives, such an action will not work - our gunman will see > to that. We are prepared and ready." > > Your gunman will see to the killing of Vaisnavas? > > "We do not fear such an attack - and make this plea only to avoid > unnecessary bloodshed." > > To avoid unnecessary bloodshed? > > "Either Dayarama's thugs will have to kill us, > or they will be shot." > > Or they will be shot? > > "You have been warned." > > Sounds like gangster talk. > > Come on Adri, wake up will you. Your above statements are indefenceable. Yet > you have the gall to question where you have threatened to kill Vaisnavas. > You are talking like a madman out of a killer movie. > > Why don't you just gracefully resign like a gentle Vaisnava should? Please. > > ys > > ada > > > > We have just been informed by our undercover agents in Mayapura, close to > > Dayarama leading disiple of JPS, of the following plan. Dayarama plans to > > fly to Mumbai in the next few days to obtain as many signatures of the > > bureau members as possible, who are in agreement with his plan to use 200 > > devotees to storm the Calcutta temple and Gurusadaya Road properties. The > > plan has been given the green light by the GBC in the USA, and the aim is > > to get the some Bureau members' assent as well. Though the bureau > > signatures will have no legal effect, they will be used after the > > occupation to be used as evidence that the action was not taken > > unilaterally. > > > > Please be warned we have at least 6 licensed gunman besides other > > arrangments at each property, and the local press and Police have been > > informed of the attack from Mayapura, and our plans of defence. We will > > defend both properties, the deities and the devotees with our life. The > > gunman are licensed to use force to repel any attack. We do not see what > > will be gained from this action, except that there will be the needless > > loss of devotee's lives. This is a final warning to both the ICC and the > > GBC, that if they wish to avert this catastrophe, they need to call > > Dayarama off. He will not take any action unless he has approval from at > > least a handful of bureau members. Otherwise they will have blood on their > > hands. Because please be rest assured that the days when such goonda > > tactics could work in ISKCON are over. Yes, with JPS on the run, and the > > GBC having no joy in the courts, it is clear that the GBC are now getting > > desparate. But unless Dayarama's hired hands are prepared to lay down > > their lives, such an action will not work - our gunman will see to that. > > We are prepared and ready. We do not fear such an attack - and make this > > plea only to avoid unnecessary bloodshed. Either Dayarama's thugs will > > have to kill us, or they will be shot - either way it will such a public > > relations disaster, that any resulting occupation, even if it were happen, > > which is highly unlikely - would be meaningless. But your agreement will > > be there for the world to see. > > > > You have been warned. > > > > > > IRM > (Text COM:3548783) -------- > > ------- End of Forwarded Message ------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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