Guest guest Posted September 18, 2000 Report Share Posted September 18, 2000 > Was it not you who wrongly posted misleading statements about the court > case in Calcutta and when asked for verification as to the source of your > statements you failed to provide for the assembled devotees any such > verification? > > > Reply > No. The verification is there for all to see on the IRM site (issues 1, 2, > 5, 6, 12, 13, 15, 21 & Supporting BriefÊFor Case Against GBC) > http://come.to/irm ..... and VNN also has posted many updates. Wake-up > Ajamila! You are living in cloud cookoo land if you think devotees in ISKCON are going to accept as reliable anything coming from a ritvik IRM website. And you know that. This is why you remained cunningly silent when the question of verification was raised in regards to the statements you posted. This is an ISKCON conference and not a place where you can dump your IRM trash. First the IRM came up with a FAKED final order which has become nothing but a laughing stock since it was irrefutably defeated with unassailable evidence from guru, sadhu, and sastra. Then out of desparation the IRM came up with FAKED votes for support because they lost the CHAKRA debate. Now you AGAIN FAKE verification of your unverified statements thinking everyone else accepts the IRM as some kind of absolute judge when in fact only the opposite is true. You can't really expect us to believe Adri's VERSION of what is happening in Calcutta as truth do you? Instead of being such fakes I suggest you try being honest for once. > They would be on com but for the fact that you strongly object to the > posting of Adri's IRM newsletters. IRM is not on COM because nobody on COM wants to hear what IRM have to say. You have nothing new to say. It is the same old recyled nonsense, and we are sick of it. Everyone has heard IRM out, rejected their stuff at best as unreliable trash and at worst as infested dribble with serious Vaisnava aparadhas. > Correct me if I am wrong but I do believe that Adri is directly involved > in the case and is thus in a position to know as to what is taking place. Come on, after all Adri's legalisitc manipulating hardly anyone accepts anything he has to say as correct, even though he is directly involved. You seem to adore Adri but you should understand that he has deliberately disobeyed and seriously offended his guru by taking him to court against his explicit instructions not to do so. Srila Prabhupad warned us that such a person who takes a philosophical issue to a mundane court is nothng but a disciple of Kali. Adri's behaviour clearly indicates his position as a discpiple of Kali. And you are adoring such a disciple of Kali. Your position is very unfortunate. > Also Hari Sauri who told the initial lie ie: that Adri had withdrawn the > case etc. never verified that, rather he retracted his statement under the > cover of it being a rash statement. So Ajamila exactly who is trying to > mislead who here? The fact remains that the Calcutta court case is still > very much a live issue and no amount of deception on your part is going to > change that. If you do not believe me ask Adri, or if you do not believe > Adri ask Satadhanya. The GBC have selected this notorious pedophile to > represent them in the Calcutta High Court in defence of their illegal guru > system. The fact is that the court case is very complicated and so Adri or anyone else can put their motivated slant on how things are going. And especially Adri, after the way he abusively tried to interpret Srila Prabhupada's instructions so that he can legalistically gain power, money, and property in a Vaisnava institution like ISKCON confirms that whatever he says will be warped and twisted in one way or another. Then on top of all that when ISKCON rightfully try to peacefuly take back what Adri has stolen from ISKCON he threatens to kill Vaisnavas, and he puts it in black and white. Then in the next instant he says I never said such a thing. He is completely insane. He claims he is being attacked but in actual fact nobody is attacking him at all. He needs psychiatric treatment. He is severely suffering from paranoid schizophrenia. He needs to see a doctor. Because of all his Vaisnava aparadhas against all the ISKCON gurus in good standing he is suffering nightmares like Kamsa, dreaming that someone is coming to kill him, but it is all in his mind. He is insane. And yet you have chosen to adore him. Therefore neither Adri or you can be trusted. > Ajamila > At least I had the decency to admit while responding to a flurry of many > Reply > Just how offensive can you get Ajamila? > Adri is still an official ISKCON TP so you are simply crying wolf again. > You could similarly level the same accusations against any ISKCON TP. This is just a childish foolish generalisation. And I'm not going to waste any more time discussing such idoitic statements. There is no other TP in ISKCON, apart from Madhu Pandit, who has taken ISKCON to court so that they can legalistically retain control against the unanimous decision of the GBC. And Adri is not an official ISKCON TP, he alone has reduced himself to a mundane legalistic imposter who has broken his OATH OF ALLEGIENCE to ISKCON, an oath he took in front of the Deities, and has broken that oath in the grossest most offensive way possible. And now he is threatening to kill any Vaisnavas who may try to peacefully remove him. All the rest of what you say is childish jibberish. These conferences are for the ISKCON faithful. There is always room for constructive and respectful discussion on haw things can be improved. Indeed, the GBC and most of ISKCON patiently listened to the ritviks and all their fairy tales for nearly ten years, and after all that they all unamiously rejected the ritvik idea as just one big concoction. > *****We challenge him to continue the debate on CHAKRA****** We have already defeated all the ritvik aruguments, concoctions, wranglings, and false interpretations of Srila Prabhpada's instructions time and time again. We all really do have much better things to do. There are some positive signs that the GBC will be much improved in the very near future. Respectful and courteous discussions are taking place in a gentlemanly way. I'd much rather spend my time in that way. When discussing with the IRM one is left with the impression that one is talking to gangsters. The IRM's attempts to reform ISKCON has only produced DEFORM and a huge waste of money and time. And if were left up to the IRM ISKCON would be reduced to a mundane legalistic organisation with Kali at the helm. So I suggest you go back to your IRM website and fight with each other. We are not interested in wasting any more time with IRM. Enough is enough. And to that end I call upon the moderator of this conference to request you not to abuse your right and the rights of others on this conference with any IRM misinformation and attacks on ISKCON. You are abusing this conference with your unwanted IRM junk. ys ada Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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