ISKCON HAS BEEN FORMED FOR THIS PURPOSE

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> I think the same thing can be fulfilled in another way. By preaching to

> people according to Srila Prabhupada's instructions, and with out

> disturbing their Sthana, simply by changing their consciousness to Krishna

> Consciousness, we can fulfill the other 50% of Srila Prabhupada's mission.

 

 

Yes. (Daiva) Varnasrama IS the method to change people's consciousness to

Krsna consciousness. We cannot just expect people to become Vaisnavas

"automatically" or by chanting like Haridasa Thakura.

 

Prabhupada: Chanting will go on. That is not stopped. But at the same time

the varnasrama-dharma must be established to make the way easy.

Hari-sauri: Well, at least my own understanding was that the chanting was

introduced in the age of Kali because varnasrama is not possible.

Prabhupada: Because it will cleanse the mind. Chanting will not stop.

Hari-sauri: So therefore the chanting was introduced to replace all of the

systems of varnasrama and like that.

Prabhupada: Yes, it can replace, but who is going to replace it? The...

People are not so advanced. If you imitate Haridasa Thakura to chant, it is

not possible.

Satsvarupa: We tell them go on with your job but chant also.

Prabhupada: Yes. Thakaha apanara kaje, Bhaktivinoda Thakura. Apanara kaja

ki. Caitanya Mahaprabhu recommended, sthane sthitah. And if they do not

remain in the sthana, then the sahajiya's chanting will come. Just like the

sahajiyas also have got the beads and..., but they have got three dozen

women. This kind of chanting will go on. Just like our (name withheld). He

was not fit for sannyasa but he was given sannyasa. And five women he was

attached, and he disclosed. Therefore varnasrama-dharma is required. Simply

show-bottle will not do. So the varnasrama-dharma should be introduced all

over the world, and...

Satsvarupa: Introduced starting with ISKCON community?

Prabhupada: Yes. Yes. Brahmana, ksatriyas. There must be regular education.

 

 

"Ultimately the aim of varnasrama-dharma is to turn a crude man into a pure

devotee of the Lord, or a Vaisnava." SB 1.2.2

 

 

"Hari-sauri: I just remember two or three years ago there was a thing... A

pamphlet came out about introducing the varnashrama system in the society,

but actually nothing came of it.

Prabhupada: Yes. That time was not right. Now you can do something."

 

 

(CWSP) Johannesburg Oct. 16, 1975:

Harikesa: How in the beginning... Let's say you have a king...

Prabhupada: Beginning Krsna.

Harikesa: No, no. Let's say you have a king, and he is deciding this person

is worthy of...

Prabhupada: No, no. Beginning Krsna. Why don't you read Bhagavad- Gita? You

don't know?

Harikesa: No, no. Yes.

Prabhupada: What is the social arrangement? What is that?

Harikesa: That Krsna created the four orders.

Prabhupada: Yes. So you make that four orders, and then society will be in

order. But you are not taking Krsna's advice. You are manufacturing your

hellish ideas.