Guest guest Posted December 9, 2003 Report Share Posted December 9, 2003 This following is from Mukunda Datta Prabhu, reposted with his permission. "May there be good fortune throughout the universe, and may all envious persons be pacified. May all living entities become calm by practicing bhakti-yoga, for by accepting devotional service they will think of each other's welfare. Therefore let us all engage in the service of the supreme transcendence, Lord Sri Krsna, and always remain absorbed in thought of Him." -- Prahlada Maharaja, Srimad-Bhagavatam, 5.18.9 On Wed, 19 Nov 2003, Dante & Sridhari Vrishni wrote: > Srila Prabhupada NEVER said PRABHVI the female word for prabhu. Saying "the female word for prabhu" implies that anyone already accepts it as some sort of recognized usage, as we would have it--which is doubtful. Just because somebody decided to derive a feminization of the word "prabhu," that alone cannot establish it as a lexical norm--much less the preferred usage of our acaryas, or anyone else's. Where does this current fashion actually come from? It seems more responsible to demontrate some substantial attestation for such novel use for "prabhvi," by which I mean some clear attestation in Vaisnava-parampara; I don't think Monier-Williams fits this description, since lexicographers themselves merely depend on the kind of attestation I'm suggesting. Without doing so, our current notion of "prabhvi" remains more or less a neologism, and looks very much like a mere tool in the hands of the fairly passionate agenda-mongers of the day. My own admittedly limited experience with the Sanskrit and vernacular bhakti literatures of the last thousand or so years (including verses Srila Prabhupada quoted himself), leads me to the impression that the word "mataji" is used to fulfil the sense for which some now prefer "prabhvi" instead. Such a novel usage of “prabhvi” thus seems fairly skewed to me, as if external (and nonspiritual) influences were actually operating far more than its advocates would care to recognize. However, this is primarily a linguistic approach. Given what Srimad Bhagavatam suggests about epistemology (cf. "aitithya," in 11.19.17), it might be more realistic to look for historical precedents involving the use of gendered terms of address among any bonafide Vaisnavas. Mukunda Datta dasa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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