Guest guest Posted December 27, 2001 Report Share Posted December 27, 2001 > Yes, there for I used the words 'mundane altruism' to indicate the > difference. Mundane altruism is when we forget that everyone is a spirit > soul, part and parcel of Krsna, and simply see them according to their > bodily condition, thinking that because someone is without money that > makes them poor and worthy of our altruism while someone with money is > therefore rich and doesn't need our altruism. As Srila Prabhupada pointed > out, everyone without knowledge and contact with Krsna is poor; > spiritually poor. So real altruism is to reconnect the soul with Krsna > either knowingly or without their knowledge. I think it shouldn't be difficult to understand the concept of "real" altruism as explained above. Though personally, I would rather chose the expression "the highest" instead of "real" in order to avoid the possibility of a very common misconception in ISKCON that all the other forms of altruism are therefore not real or false, hence to be disregarded by the practitioners of bhakti-yoga as "maya". As far as "mundane". It also often carries the connotation of rejected "maya" in the ISKCON's terminology. While not necessarily has to be so. Though being of the pure spiritual origin, we are nevertheless still of this world too. Thus both aspects need to be given due consideration. Not everything that is of the external material resemblance deserves to be rejected by default as "mundane". Rather our aspiration for the mundane reward is what is to be given up. For this, we have the perfect example of Srila Prabhupada himself: his well known reaction and the instruction when he spotted a girl fighting the street dogs over the scraps of food. Since his "mundane" reaction was about a mundane phenomena (a bodily condition of the child, not her spiritual conditon) and the solution was to be mundane too (to insure people don't go hungry, not to insure that their souls get reconneceted to Krsna) thus both such altruism and his isntruction might, technically speaking, be seen by some as "mundane". But so far I am concerned, it is rather the nature of selfless compassion that determines wether such altruism is actually mundane or not. Srila Prabhupada also instructed, in an another occasion, that free clothing be supplied to the "naked". The soul needs no clothing. A material dress is not the mean of reconnection between the "spiritually naked" soul and Krsna. This is another very clear example of that type of altruism that is not "real" altruism but, according to some -- "mundane". This Prabhupada's exhibition of so-called mundane altruism didn't have to include perhaps his forgetfulness that everyone is a spirit soul and his simply seeing those misfortune people according to their bodily condition. It is a kind of an ISKCON misconception that a devotee of Krsna means someone who has thoroughly washed his hand off "mundane altruism" once for ever. > Prasada distribution is one of the most effective > and universal ways of reconnecting the soul with Krsna. It doesn't matter > if they see it merely as food; if its offered to Krsna, it IS Krsna and > anyone who eats some (or distributes it) gets unlimited spiritual benefit. That is certainly undisputable. (Just as it is so with the fact that the book Bhagavatam is Krsna and not merely a book, yet it is being tax-free profitably exchanged for the certain amount of money, thus discriminatively not given to those with the bad karma of having no money.) But what I have been rather referring to is not the prasada distribution for the _exclusive_ purpose of the spiritual benefit only. As my understanding goes, FFL does not pose as such either, hence FFL should not be "cross-questioned" on that base either. That most essential feature of purpose that prasada has still not been deprived from along the process of sanctifying the food, is -- "mundane". It is not like maha-mantara that we may chant or not, the deity worship we may do or not, a sastra we may read or not, SB class to attend or not... But it is still food that if you don't eat, you physically suffer and eventually -- die. Just as Prabhupada had no problem with the understanding that prasada also may be distributed for the "mundane" sake of solving the immediate distress of others such as hunger (and he even instructed his disciples to do so), I do not see the base that we make some problem (to others) out of it. - mnd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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