Encouraging celibacy - interesting comment on the subject...

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Dear Maharaja,

 

Dandavat pranams.

 

> > I read the submitted lecture by BTS, and I could not understand how it

> > is

> > percieved that he is promoting homosexual activities. While he is

> > discussing the

> > issue in an open manner, it was not obvious to me that he is sanctifying

> > illicit sexual contact.

>

> This is not my point. My point is why is he making statements without

> giving evidence, eg homosexuals are considered auspicious in Vedic

> culture?

 

Your claim that Bhakti-tirtha Maharaja's statements are cheating is untrue.

The third-gender (trtiya-prakrti) - including gays, lesbians, hijras

(transgenders), etc. - was evident and Vedic times, and was at times

considered auspicious. Ask anyone about the traditional roles of hijras

before their modern-day ostracisation from society, and they will tell you

as much. Indeed your Guru Maharaja, Srila A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami

Prabhupada states as much in the following quote.

 

Your servant,

Rama Kesava dasa

 

 

 

Tape #67-002 San Francisco 04/05/67

 

 

SP: (Srila Prabhupada) Jagannatha Misra is father. He was... whatever money

and cloth and gold and silver... they were coming... he was also

distributing to poor man, some dancers. In India there is a system... what

do you call the eunuchs? Those who are neither male or female? What do you

call them? What is their name?

 

HD: (Hayagriva dasa) A combination of both?

 

SP: Yes.

 

HD: Male and female? Hermaphrodite.

 

SP: Eunuchs? What is the eunuch?

 

HD: Eunuch. A eunuch is a ...

 

SP: Tell me that.

 

HD: Impotent... someone who's been castrated.

 

SP: Oh. That is called a eunuch.

 

HD: Eunuch.

 

SP: Rather, by nature, neither man nor woman.

 

HD: Oh. This is also called asexual. That is to say, no sex.

 

SP: No sex?

 

HD: Hermaphrodite means they have the physical characteristics of both man

and woman.

 

SP: Oh? At the same time?

 

HD: At the same time.

 

SP: I do not know exactly, but such people, they have their own society, and

their means of livelihood is, that whenever there is some good occasion...

marriage or childbirth, like that, so, they go there and pray to God that

this child may be very long-living. In this way they make some prayer and

get some...

 

HD: These people. Now, I don't understand...

 

SP: ...Yes. Saci devi is the mother of Lord Caitanya. She is sitting with

the child. And everyone is greeting and visiting and everyone is saying,

"Oh! Look how nice a child He is!"

 

HD: And these "asexual" people?

 

SP: They are dancing.

 

HD: They are dancing.

 

SP: Yes. They are chanting Hare Krsna. Like that. So. Hare Krsna dancing is

going there and visitors are coming and presenting very nice things. Yes.